Max's point is that racism and sexism are rampant in the Bible. Which is true.
Quote from: SecondClass on March 02, 2016, 12:05:02 AMMax's point is that racism and sexism are rampant in the Bible. Which is true.Which has nothing to do with the plentiful good sense that is actually in the Bible.A socially-liberal person like yourself probably doesn't see much worth in what I'm talking about, though.
You can't follow the Bible without also listening to the shitty stuff it says.
Quote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 05:08:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:07:48 PMI mean, if you live in the 1950's mentality that women and coloreds are below the white man, then I guess that makes sense.No, of course I don't think that. I probably shouldn't be having this conversation with you, anyway.Probably not. Believing in Christianity is dumb to being with; doing so without believing in God is even dumber.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:07:48 PMI mean, if you live in the 1950's mentality that women and coloreds are below the white man, then I guess that makes sense.No, of course I don't think that. I probably shouldn't be having this conversation with you, anyway.
I mean, if you live in the 1950's mentality that women and coloreds are below the white man, then I guess that makes sense.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:09:44 PMQuote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 05:08:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:07:48 PMI mean, if you live in the 1950's mentality that women and coloreds are below the white man, then I guess that makes sense.No, of course I don't think that. I probably shouldn't be having this conversation with you, anyway.Probably not. Believing in Christianity is dumb to being with; doing so without believing in God is even dumber.Why am I not surprised you have such a dumb opinion like this?
Quote from: aSMARTfeminist on March 02, 2016, 01:02:58 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:09:44 PMQuote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 05:08:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:07:48 PMI mean, if you live in the 1950's mentality that women and coloreds are below the white man, then I guess that makes sense.No, of course I don't think that. I probably shouldn't be having this conversation with you, anyway.Probably not. Believing in Christianity is dumb to being with; doing so without believing in God is even dumber.Why am I not surprised you have such a dumb opinion like this?Isn't the whole point in Christianity to seek salvation through Christ and worship God? What's the point in being Christian if you don't believe Christ leads to salvation and you don't believe God exist?
Quote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 01:05:08 PMQuote from: aSMARTfeminist on March 02, 2016, 01:02:58 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:09:44 PMQuote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 05:08:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:07:48 PMI mean, if you live in the 1950's mentality that women and coloreds are below the white man, then I guess that makes sense.No, of course I don't think that. I probably shouldn't be having this conversation with you, anyway.Probably not. Believing in Christianity is dumb to being with; doing so without believing in God is even dumber.Why am I not surprised you have such a dumb opinion like this?Isn't the whole point in Christianity to seek salvation through Christ and worship God? What's the point in being Christian if you don't believe Christ leads to salvation and you don't believe God exist?"Believing in Christianity is dumb to begin with"Man, you're gonna be in a real shock once you get sent to Hell
Quote from: aSMARTfeminist on March 02, 2016, 01:17:07 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 01:05:08 PMQuote from: aSMARTfeminist on March 02, 2016, 01:02:58 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:09:44 PMQuote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 05:08:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:07:48 PMI mean, if you live in the 1950's mentality that women and coloreds are below the white man, then I guess that makes sense.No, of course I don't think that. I probably shouldn't be having this conversation with you, anyway.Probably not. Believing in Christianity is dumb to being with; doing so without believing in God is even dumber.Why am I not surprised you have such a dumb opinion like this?Isn't the whole point in Christianity to seek salvation through Christ and worship God? What's the point in being Christian if you don't believe Christ leads to salvation and you don't believe God exist?"Believing in Christianity is dumb to begin with"Man, you're gonna be in a real shock once you get sent to HellI doubt I'd be sent to hell simply because I used the brain that God gave me.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 01:18:30 PMQuote from: aSMARTfeminist on March 02, 2016, 01:17:07 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 01:05:08 PMQuote from: aSMARTfeminist on March 02, 2016, 01:02:58 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:09:44 PMQuote from: Eliab on March 01, 2016, 05:08:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2016, 05:07:48 PMI mean, if you live in the 1950's mentality that women and coloreds are below the white man, then I guess that makes sense.No, of course I don't think that. I probably shouldn't be having this conversation with you, anyway.Probably not. Believing in Christianity is dumb to being with; doing so without believing in God is even dumber.Why am I not surprised you have such a dumb opinion like this?Isn't the whole point in Christianity to seek salvation through Christ and worship God? What's the point in being Christian if you don't believe Christ leads to salvation and you don't believe God exist?"Believing in Christianity is dumb to begin with"Man, you're gonna be in a real shock once you get sent to HellI doubt I'd be sent to hell simply because I used the brain that God gave me.God gave you a brain and you are willingly denying His existence. I'm pretty sure He'll send you to Hell for that. Oh well, more room in Heaven for me
In fact, I struggle with the idea of hell in general.
But you don't believe in God, and God created sin. Sin [or rather, unrepented sin, depending on your flavor of Christianity] is what sends you to hell. Without God, there is no sin.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 02:02:30 PMBut you don't believe in God, and God created sin. Sin [or rather, unrepented sin, depending on your flavor of Christianity] is what sends you to hell. Without God, there is no sin.I don't understand your point.
You said earlier that you believe in heaven and hell, yet don't believe in God. Without God, there are no rules by which you are sent to heaven/hell.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 02:02:30 PMGod created sin.Do you actually know anything about Christianity or are you just baiting
God created sin.
God created all things, including the rules for what is or isn't sinful.
No man has the authority to tell another where God will send them. I struggle to believe a follower of Christ's message, inadvertent or not, could be justifiably sent to hell.Midget's retarded, this is nothing new.
I'm retarded for telling God's truth? If you deny Him you go to Hell, it's that simple
Quote from: aSMARTfeminist on March 02, 2016, 02:23:02 PMI'm retarded for telling God's truth? If you deny Him you go to Hell, it's that simpleBelief in God is not a choice, an atheist like Max has no ability to just "choose" to believe that Christ died on the cross. That is how it works.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 02:19:28 PMQuote from: Chief Among Sinners on March 02, 2016, 02:13:10 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 02:02:30 PMGod created sin.Do you actually know anything about Christianity or are you just baitingGod created all things, including the rules for what is or isn't sinful.Sin is the result of Man's failure to live in union with God's divine life. It literally means "missing the mark". There isn't a list of sins, there isn't a rule for what is and isn't sin. Sin isn't something that is "created" per se, it refers to man's failure. OUR failure. Not God's.
Quote from: Chief Among Sinners on March 02, 2016, 02:13:10 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 02:02:30 PMGod created sin.Do you actually know anything about Christianity or are you just baitingGod created all things, including the rules for what is or isn't sinful.
Wrong. If you've been introduced to God's word and still deny Him, you have made a choice. THAT is how it works.
It is a constant contradiction between belief and doubt, a continual renewal of faith in the face of doubt and skepticism.