Quote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 12:24:43 AM[the one who actually wanted to change things]Sorry?You're also forgetting the fact that people who are celebrating the 'rise' of Sanders apparently have no sense of recent political history at all.
[the one who actually wanted to change things]
I see people are already jumping the gun by calling this a victory for Clinton.
There's still a big chunk of the country left, Sanders isn't out yet.
Also keep in mind that most of the Super Tuesday states were southern states.
I'm well aware that Congress would shut him down at every step. Just because Congress wouldn't support him doesn't mean he didn't want sweeping change.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 10:20:02 AMI'm well aware that Congress would shut him down at every step. Just because Congress wouldn't support him doesn't mean he didn't want sweeping change.So you're essentially saying that you're going to vote for Sanders knowing he will be a lame duck, but at least you'll be able to moralise the election and look down on everybody who didn't vote for the Little Revolutionary Who Could. It seems more like you're interested in signalling that you like systemic change and big, progressive policy initiatives than you are achieving those initiatives. Whatever you think of her, it's eminently clear that Hillary Clinton is the best chance of any kind of actual and effective progressive government than any other candidate, yet she's just not progressive enough for your essentially moralistic and impossible standards.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 01, 2016, 11:17:53 PMThat horrible rich, white, businessman is going to ruin America. Surely this rich, white, career politician will make things right.You're all dumb tbh famsYou skipped the part where if you supported the Independent Jew [the one who actually wanted to change things] you were a damn commie and a childish retard.
That horrible rich, white, businessman is going to ruin America. Surely this rich, white, career politician will make things right.You're all dumb tbh fams
Quote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 12:24:43 AMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 01, 2016, 11:17:53 PMThat horrible rich, white, businessman is going to ruin America. Surely this rich, white, career politician will make things right.You're all dumb tbh famsYou skipped the part where if you supported the Independent Jew [the one who actually wanted to change things] you were a damn commie and a childish retard.To Bernard's credit he doesn't appear to be stupid enough to go full commie.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 02, 2016, 04:16:40 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 12:24:43 AMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 01, 2016, 11:17:53 PMThat horrible rich, white, businessman is going to ruin America. Surely this rich, white, career politician will make things right.You're all dumb tbh famsYou skipped the part where if you supported the Independent Jew [the one who actually wanted to change things] you were a damn commie and a childish retard.To Bernard's credit he doesn't appear to be stupid enough to go full commie.That doesn't keep his opponents from conflating his positions and his supporters with communism.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 04:27:44 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 02, 2016, 04:16:40 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 12:24:43 AMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 01, 2016, 11:17:53 PMThat horrible rich, white, businessman is going to ruin America. Surely this rich, white, career politician will make things right.You're all dumb tbh famsYou skipped the part where if you supported the Independent Jew [the one who actually wanted to change things] you were a damn commie and a childish retard.To Bernard's credit he doesn't appear to be stupid enough to go full commie.That doesn't keep his opponents from conflating his positions and his supporters with communism.To be fair conservatives do that to everyone anyway.
Quote from: ChaosMetalDragon on March 02, 2016, 04:49:40 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 04:27:44 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 02, 2016, 04:16:40 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 02, 2016, 12:24:43 AMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 01, 2016, 11:17:53 PMThat horrible rich, white, businessman is going to ruin America. Surely this rich, white, career politician will make things right.You're all dumb tbh famsYou skipped the part where if you supported the Independent Jew [the one who actually wanted to change things] you were a damn commie and a childish retard.To Bernard's credit he doesn't appear to be stupid enough to go full commie.That doesn't keep his opponents from conflating his positions and his supporters with communism.To be fair conservatives do that to everyone anyway.If you're insinuating liberals don't do that to everyone, that's adorable.
can we talk about how fucking retarded "superdelegates" arethe DEMOCRATIC PARTY isn't so democratic, it seems
What happened?
clinton's massive lead over sanders is still comprised almost entirely of superdelegates
iirc, superdelegates can still change their minds at any point before or during the conventionso i mean, the writing isn't quite on the wall just yet
Quote from: Verbatim on March 03, 2016, 12:28:55 AMiirc, superdelegates can still change their minds at any point before or during the conventionso i mean, the writing isn't quite on the wall just yetSuper delegates are meaningless anyway, they'd never go against the popular vote since that would be suicide for the democratic party. The only reason they're being included into the count right now is to attempt to suppress voter turn out from the Sanders camp by making it seem as though he has to overcome impossible odds to win.
Quote from: LC on March 03, 2016, 06:11:04 PMQuote from: Verbatim on March 03, 2016, 12:28:55 AMiirc, superdelegates can still change their minds at any point before or during the conventionso i mean, the writing isn't quite on the wall just yetSuper delegates are meaningless anyway, they'd never go against the popular vote since that would be suicide for the democratic party. The only reason they're being included into the count right now is to attempt to suppress voter turn out from the Sanders camp by making it seem as though he has to overcome impossible odds to win.Stop.
Quote from: Icy on March 03, 2016, 06:41:53 PMQuote from: LC on March 03, 2016, 06:11:04 PMQuote from: Verbatim on March 03, 2016, 12:28:55 AMiirc, superdelegates can still change their minds at any point before or during the conventionso i mean, the writing isn't quite on the wall just yetSuper delegates are meaningless anyway, they'd never go against the popular vote since that would be suicide for the democratic party. The only reason they're being included into the count right now is to attempt to suppress voter turn out from the Sanders camp by making it seem as though he has to overcome impossible odds to win.Stop.It's not false. Look back to Clinton's run at it in '08. The supers go where popular will is, and that has never changed. If Sanders managed to actually start winning states, they'd flip sides.That requires Sanders to start winning more states, though, enough to show more popular support.
Quote from: Prime Multivac on March 03, 2016, 07:37:11 PMQuote from: Icy on March 03, 2016, 06:41:53 PMQuote from: LC on March 03, 2016, 06:11:04 PMQuote from: Verbatim on March 03, 2016, 12:28:55 AMiirc, superdelegates can still change their minds at any point before or during the conventionso i mean, the writing isn't quite on the wall just yetSuper delegates are meaningless anyway, they'd never go against the popular vote since that would be suicide for the democratic party. The only reason they're being included into the count right now is to attempt to suppress voter turn out from the Sanders camp by making it seem as though he has to overcome impossible odds to win.Stop.It's not false. Look back to Clinton's run at it in '08. The supers go where popular will is, and that has never changed. If Sanders managed to actually start winning states, they'd flip sides.That requires Sanders to start winning more states, though, enough to show more popular support.It's a circle. To win more delegates, Sanders needs more states. To win more states, he needs more delegates. Superdelegates are afraid to be the first ones to take a step away from the presumed nominee, Clinton. Yay.
Super Tuesday Thread: March 1st, 2016 (4 States Remaining)
