Okay, so lets put this out there, women attacking men.

Batch · June 07, 2015, 06:54:07 PM

Now, this is open for discussion and I'd like to make it a point, if a women hits a man, well if she straight out attacks him, draws blood and all is it not okay for men to fight back? We're going for equality here people. I think we're all fairly smart here so I think we all know the right answer, hitting a women is wrong, most accounts, but damn if it ain't already provoked by physical violence then I wouldnt say it's okay, but expected.

I'll give you some examples, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeXLg7uOH9U
Now something I've heard of a lot feminists is that men shouldnt hit women, period.....so.....they have to stand there and actually take the assault, women aren't exactly weak things, a punch is a punch and it can still bloody hurt. Why am I bringing this up? Just saw a few things over the net, Exo hasn't started anything (not that I'd ever hit her, I know a good bear hug would deal with her)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ntfQ3u2Mo
Lets throw some shameful feminism into the mix *cringe*

See, I ain't against feminists, but I feel defensive on how offensive they are, and ideals some women actually have, that they can do whatever they want.....and even if she started....the man will still probably go to jail because "equality"

So this is muddy fucking water here, lets discuss.

Mad Max · June 07, 2015, 07:00:50 PM

It's a shitty thing to hit someone, no matter their sex. If you hit me, I'll hit you back, no matter your sex.

This isn't muddy at all.

Batch · June 07, 2015, 07:05:19 PM

Quote from: Mad Max on June 07, 2015, 07:00:50 PM

It's a shitty thing to hit someone, no matter their sex. If you hit me, I'll hit you back, no matter your sex.

This isn't muddy at all.

The reactions and consequences are the muddy part, if a female constantly smacks on a guy, people are shocked, but they won't do anything, they won't think it's a great deal even if the guy has a split lip and black eye, you fight back, suddenly everyone jumps in and she's the victim, this is the muddy part, this isn't equality, and then the guy gets done for abuse and she's rocking the 'self defence' banner

>Privileges.

Turkey · June 07, 2015, 07:40:21 PM

I really don't think anyone but the almost non-existent neofeminist Tumblr-nazis believe it's okay to hit men.

Feminism is about leveling the playing field for all, not elevating one team above another.

Batch · June 07, 2015, 07:46:09 PM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on June 07, 2015, 07:40:21 PM

I really don't think anyone but the almost non-existent neofeminist Tumblr-nazis believe it's okay to hit men.

Feminism is about leveling the playing field for all, not elevating one team above another.

Yeah I completely agree, and I like that we're going that way, but damn a hell of a lot of misinformed people rally under the incorrect banner.

Sandtrap · June 07, 2015, 07:56:07 PM

Don't know here. So many variables to take into account. Ideally, it'd be peachy if fucking nobody acted like cunts to each other. But, that can't happen. Never will.

I've some personal rules for this whole mess. Arguably, I'n my life I'm more likely to be attacked by guys than I am women. I mind my own business.

I would generally, always try to back out of a fight before getting into it. But you have to take things into account.

Personally, I would never hit a woman. But, no law says that you can't subdue them. No law says that you can grab them and stop them from hitting you. No "privelege" can claim that you attacked them and that they're the victim.

As for guys, I'd give them a chance at least. Try to make the case of "let's not get into this for our sake."

However. Lethal intent? Doesn't matter who or what at that point. Priority is survival. That's the way I go about things. Seems fair enough to me.

Know that both sexes aren't equal physically. So you have to accomodate for it. No other way.

Luis · June 07, 2015, 08:00:37 PM

if someone hits you, you should hit them back. Their sex shouldn't fucking matter.

Pendulate · June 07, 2015, 09:12:36 PM

Defending yourself and fighting back are not the same thing.

If some nut is throwing haymakers at you, you should have the right to restrain them. That doesn't make it justified to beat them up in return.

Mordo · June 07, 2015, 09:16:16 PM

Quote from: Pendulate on June 07, 2015, 09:12:36 PM

Defending yourself and fighting back are not the same thing.

If some nut is throwing haymakers at you, you should have the right to restrain them. That doesn't make it justified to beat them up in return.

Exactly what someone who's never been in a fight before would say.

Pendulate · June 07, 2015, 09:18:15 PM

Quote from: Madman Mordo on June 07, 2015, 09:16:16 PM

Quote from: Pendulate on June 07, 2015, 09:12:36 PM
Defending yourself and fighting back are not the same thing.

If some nut is throwing haymakers at you, you should have the right to restrain them. That doesn't make it justified to beat them up in return.
Exactly what someone who's never been in a fight before would say.

Well, I'd agree with them.

Mordo · June 07, 2015, 09:20:57 PM

Quote from: Pendulate on June 07, 2015, 09:18:15 PM

Quote from: Madman Mordo on June 07, 2015, 09:16:16 PM
Quote from: Pendulate on June 07, 2015, 09:12:36 PM
Defending yourself and fighting back are not the same thing.

If some nut is throwing haymakers at you, you should have the right to restrain them. That doesn't make it justified to beat them up in return.
Exactly what someone who's never been in a fight before would say.
Well, I'd agree with them.

Cool.

Just remember that on the off chance you do get beaten up one day, it wasn't because you're a pussy. It's because you attempted to "restrain" him.

Pendulate · June 07, 2015, 09:24:56 PM

I think you misconstrued my post.

If I replace restrain with incapacitate, does that make more sense?

eggsalad · June 07, 2015, 09:54:10 PM

As far as my experience and what I've seen around on liveleak/worldstar, people usually lean towards equal rights equal fights and know some ratchet bitches deserve hits. The worst offenders are usually the dumb bitch's entourage who just yell and holler annoyingly in the background or white-knight guys who think it is the male duty in life to save endangered women and jump in with suckerpunches or other scummy crap. I honestly feel like more men need to abandon those archaic values than women do.

And for as to how this topic relates to female on male domestic violence, I can only say that the state of things for male victims right now is abysmal and the apparent lack effort from the feminist community on the subject is absolutely disgraceful and serves to illustrate that political feminism first and foremost works for the benefit of women, and not in pursuit of true equality.

PSU · June 07, 2015, 10:46:31 PM

Really depends. If I truly feel threatened, then yes id have no problem hitting a woman.

But someone can draw blood and not really be threatening at all. I can't tell you the amount of times I've been hit in my nose or eyebrows just from play fighting with my friends or my wife. It's never threatening just because you start bleeding a little.

Azumarill · June 07, 2015, 10:53:44 PM

equal rights equal fights

Lord Starch · June 08, 2015, 01:58:14 AM

Quote from: Madman Mordo on June 07, 2015, 09:16:16 PM

Quote from: Pendulate on June 07, 2015, 09:12:36 PM
Defending yourself and fighting back are not the same thing.

If some nut is throwing haymakers at you, you should have the right to restrain them. That doesn't make it justified to beat them up in return.
Exactly what someone who's never been in a fight before would say.

It depends on who you're fighting. If it's a woman I wouldn't go out of my way to beat her, regardless of her size and training. But a dude is fair game. Considering the physical differences between men and women, it just makes sense.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · June 08, 2015, 03:02:54 AM

I'm probably not going to do much damage if I try to hit someone. A snug bear hug would restrain me pretty easily. >_>

Batch · June 08, 2015, 04:12:52 AM

Quote from: Prime Servitor on June 08, 2015, 03:02:54 AM

I'm probably not going to do much damage if I try to hit someone. A snug bear hug would restrain me pretty easily. >_>

Then consider yourself snug.

Mattie G Indahouse · June 08, 2015, 05:37:10 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeXLg7uOH9U#t=2m48s
Oh god that bus driver sounds like Samuel L. Jackson. For the second video about Whoopi I love that she's trying to make a point and the femtards as usually are blocking her out and trying to force their bullshit.

Girl of Mystery · June 08, 2015, 07:56:34 AM

Quote from: Pendulate on June 07, 2015, 09:12:36 PM

Defending yourself and fighting back are not the same thing.

If some nut is throwing haymakers at you, you should have the right to restrain them. That doesn't make it justified to beat them up in return.

lol

If someone is attacking you, you absolutely have the right to fight back, which would be self defence.
Good luck "restraining" them.

Mordo · June 08, 2015, 08:22:03 AM

Quote from: Pendulate on June 07, 2015, 09:24:56 PM

I think you misconstrued my post.

If I replace restrain with incapacitate, does that make more sense?

I'm not sure what these words even mean in the context of a fight. "Restrain" and "incapacitate" could literally mean anything. You can restrain someone by holding them down, and you can incapacitate someone by KOing them with a swift right hook.

Either you're just trying to pussyfoot around our rights as individuals to defend ourselves, or you genuinely don't think we should have that right at all. Would love a clarification.

gats · June 08, 2015, 08:56:12 AM

yeah i'd hit her back. but not like stamp on her face or anything just a punch in the face should suffice

Pendulate · June 08, 2015, 09:24:44 AM

Quote from: Madman Mordo on June 08, 2015, 08:22:03 AM

I'm not sure what these words even mean in the context of a fight. "Restrain" and "incapacitate" could literally mean anything. You can restrain someone by holding them down, and you can incapacitate someone by KOing them with a swift right hook.

Either you're just trying to pussyfoot around our rights as individuals to defend ourselves, or you genuinely don't think we should have that right at all. Would love a clarification.

I am saying there's a clear distinction between using necessary force to defend yourself, and proceeding to beat someone up just because they came at you first.

I don't see how rights factor into this.

More Than Mortal · June 08, 2015, 09:58:50 AM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on June 07, 2015, 07:40:21 PM

I really don't think anyone but the almost non-existent neofeminist Tumblr-nazis believe it's okay to hit men.

Feminism is about leveling the playing field for all, not elevating one team above another.

Somebody hasn't been paying attention.

Mr. Psychologist · June 08, 2015, 10:51:53 AM

Restraining someone and showing some restraint aren't necessarily the same thing <.<

If someone is going for you with wild abandon then regardless of their gender defending yourself is the right thing to do. It really doesn't matter what their chromosomes are if they are trying to maim you.

But if someone slaps you then you don't exactly need to put them in hospital for it.

Sandtrap · June 08, 2015, 10:57:23 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 08, 2015, 10:51:53 AM

Restraining someone and showing some restraint aren't necessarily the same thing <.<

If someone is going for you with wild abandon then regardless of their gender defending yourself is the right thing to do. It really doesn't matter what their chromosomes are if they are trying to maim you.

But if someone slaps you then you don't exactly need to put them in hospital for it.

Talk shit get hit. Nope. Have to enforce superiority. They slap me I have the moral right to run them over with my truck. And their house with a combine harvester.

Justice, served.

Kitsune 狐 · June 08, 2015, 05:38:33 PM

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Batch · June 08, 2015, 06:24:09 PM

Quote from: challengerX on June 08, 2015, 05:50:42 PM

If anybody hits me I just activate my suicide vest.

Problem solved.

Allah Akbar

Forgewolf · June 08, 2015, 10:10:26 PM

Quote from: Mad Max on June 07, 2015, 07:00:50 PM

It's a shitty thing to hit someone, no matter their sex. If you hit me, I'll hit you back, no matter your sex.

Treat others the way you want to be treated, like it. I was always raised on if a girl hits like a man, she should be treated like one and hit her back.