Quote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 01:28:03 PM> The anti media . orghurr durr only sources that agree with my worldview are legitimateI'll be sure to disregard any Huffpost or MSNBC links :^)
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Quote from: Cindo on December 05, 2015, 05:30:28 PM"There's no way to stop this from happening" - only first-world country where mass-shootings happen regularlyAlmost nobody's actually saying that.We're just saying your solution is retarded and overreaching.
"There's no way to stop this from happening" - only first-world country where mass-shootings happen regularly
Quote from: Scott Weiland is dead on December 05, 2015, 05:38:17 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 05, 2015, 05:30:28 PM"There's no way to stop this from happening" - only first-world country where mass-shootings happen regularlyAlmost nobody's actually saying that.We're just saying your solution is retarded and overreaching.What's Cindy's solution?
Quote from: Cindo on December 05, 2015, 05:48:14 PMQuote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 05:41:14 PMQuote from: Scott Weiland is dead on December 05, 2015, 05:38:17 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 05, 2015, 05:30:28 PM"There's no way to stop this from happening" - only first-world country where mass-shootings happen regularlyAlmost nobody's actually saying that.We're just saying your solution is retarded and overreaching.What's Cindy's solution?I mean, tbh, I like shooting guns, but let's be real - assault weaponry shouldn't be available to just have in your home.Carry and use of high-caliber and automatic weaponry should be restricted for shooting ranges. You can argue that you might need a shotgun or a small pistol for self-defense, but I dunno what kind of thief would need to be put down with a Browning.That would accomplish virtually nothing, though.
Quote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 05:41:14 PMQuote from: Scott Weiland is dead on December 05, 2015, 05:38:17 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 05, 2015, 05:30:28 PM"There's no way to stop this from happening" - only first-world country where mass-shootings happen regularlyAlmost nobody's actually saying that.We're just saying your solution is retarded and overreaching.What's Cindy's solution?I mean, tbh, I like shooting guns, but let's be real - assault weaponry shouldn't be available to just have in your home.Carry and use of high-caliber and automatic weaponry should be restricted for shooting ranges. You can argue that you might need a shotgun or a small pistol for self-defense, but I dunno what kind of thief would need to be put down with a Browning.
All guns kill you just as dead.
Quote from: Cindo on December 05, 2015, 06:00:07 PMQuote from: Flee on December 05, 2015, 05:53:29 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 05, 2015, 05:48:14 PMQuote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 05:41:14 PMQuote from: Scott Weiland is dead on December 05, 2015, 05:38:17 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 05, 2015, 05:30:28 PM"There's no way to stop this from happening" - only first-world country where mass-shootings happen regularlyAlmost nobody's actually saying that.We're just saying your solution is retarded and overreaching.What's Cindy's solution?I mean, tbh, I like shooting guns, but let's be real - assault weaponry shouldn't be available to just have in your home.Carry and use of high-caliber and automatic weaponry should be restricted for shooting ranges. You can argue that you might need a shotgun or a small pistol for self-defense, but I dunno what kind of thief would need to be put down with a Browning.That would accomplish virtually nothing, though.Meaning that they would be required to be kept on ranges rather than being stored and purchased in one's personal time.That still wouldn't make much of an impact at all. As far as I'm aware, there have been only 3-4 confirmed cases of a legally obtained automatic firearms or machine guns being used in homicides in the last 70 years. Because of their high retail price, high taxes and government fees and extensive paperwork, they also don't change hands nearly as often as other firearms. Originally automatic weapons see such rare use in crimes that the FBI doesn't even consider them as a seperate category. Additionally, while "assault weapons" with certain features described in the AWB are used in about 40% of all mass shootings, they only make up less than 2% of all gun crime and violence in the US. Focusing on them will do next to nothing to curb gun violence.
Quote from: Flee on December 05, 2015, 05:53:29 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 05, 2015, 05:48:14 PMQuote from: Luciana on December 05, 2015, 05:41:14 PMQuote from: Scott Weiland is dead on December 05, 2015, 05:38:17 PMQuote from: Cindo on December 05, 2015, 05:30:28 PM"There's no way to stop this from happening" - only first-world country where mass-shootings happen regularlyAlmost nobody's actually saying that.We're just saying your solution is retarded and overreaching.What's Cindy's solution?I mean, tbh, I like shooting guns, but let's be real - assault weaponry shouldn't be available to just have in your home.Carry and use of high-caliber and automatic weaponry should be restricted for shooting ranges. You can argue that you might need a shotgun or a small pistol for self-defense, but I dunno what kind of thief would need to be put down with a Browning.That would accomplish virtually nothing, though.Meaning that they would be required to be kept on ranges rather than being stored and purchased in one's personal time.
Quote from: Cindo on December 05, 2015, 06:31:25 PM"But the fact that all of you ignorant people can (and probably will) vote and promote legislation affecting these things is absolutely sickening."Meanwhile, Europe and Australia continue to have incredulously less gun crimes committed as compared to AmericaHmmmmo wow countries with few guns have few gun crimes color me surprised famA) gun crime is a retarded measure of the success of gun control. of course gun control prevents gun crime. what does it do for violent crime specifically?2) wealthy countries with largely homogenous population, and arguably greater cultural aversion to violence have less violence? im surprise famtres) crime is a retarded concept and using it in an argument with me is a waste of your time. The US government is one of the biggest criminals in history by its own standards, but you fully support it as long as it enforces your will and not the will of the political opposition. The only true "crime" in life is the use of force or coercion against another person, something police do every fucking day, and I don't see anybody trying to disarm the US government. I'll back disarmament when it includes everybody, not just civilians. Until then, Don't Tread On Me.
"But the fact that all of you ignorant people can (and probably will) vote and promote legislation affecting these things is absolutely sickening."Meanwhile, Europe and Australia continue to have incredulously less gun crimes committed as compared to AmericaHmmmm
If you use the popular statistical definition of a massacre as a violent crime with 3 or more victims, which conveniently includes most instances of gang and criminal violence.
Oh look, I was right.
