If you had the possibility of creating AI, would you?

 
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"heh if ur not stupid you'd know never can not mean never somtimes lel"

Come on bro
it's not the word "never" that you're supposed to read between

"suffering is never justified"

to the thinking person, that might seem like a generalization made for the sake of convenience
a more accurate statement would be "unjustified suffering is never justified"

but that's tautological, so let's use another word
"gratuitous suffering is never justified"

again, tautological

it should be a given that when i say, "suffering is bad," i mean, "suffering that is bad is bad"

but i mean

i don't really feel like i should have to say that

i really

really

don't


 
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wait, does he know what tautological means


 
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let me be clear

within the context of life on earth, suffering can be justified

but within the context of reality itself, the existence of suffering cannot be justified

let me say that again

the fact that suffering EXISTS in the first place--the fact itself that we live in a universe where suffering is even a thing that can happen--that cannot be justified

but whether it's justified to exist or not, it DOES exist--and when it happens, it can be justified

if cutting off my arm produced the cure for cancer, i would gladly suffer through that--it would be justified
but the fact that i had to cut off my arm to cure cancer in the first place is bullshit
the fact that CANCER exists in the first place is bullshit

does that make any degree of sense to you?

because it makes a hell of a lot of sense to me

the universe should be perfect, but it isn't--and you cannot justify that
you cannot say, "yeah, the universe isn't perfect, but here's why that's okay"

because no, it's not okay
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Because tautology has nothing do with what you said.
Yes it does. So you DON'T know what it means. Hilarious.
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Saying "unjustified suffering is never justified" is not the same thing as saying "suffering (of any kind) is never justified".
Uh, yeah, no motherfucking goddamn cunt shit you illiterate fucking retard. The point of a tautological statement is to NOT make it tautological and actually say something that's worth responding to, in the form of exaggeration or hyperbole.

Just because they're not the exact same statement does not mean that the intentions aren't the same. If someone uses the word "never," chances are, they're exaggerating. It's probably happened at least once, but it's just a lot fucking easier to say "never" than to have to explain the one time it did happen.

"It rained only once five years ago" and "It never rains here" are two completely difference statements, but depending on the context, they can essentially mean the exact same thing. Except one is a lot better at driving the point home that, "rain in this area is extremely rare," and that's the one that uses the word "never."

THIS IS BASIC SHIT.

This is something that most people grasp by age six.

Say something retarded again and I'll tell you to kill yourself over the Internet.
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You have no idea what tautology means.
The insecure little kid deflects his ignorance of words that are too big for him and childishly claims that the mature adult doesn't know what it means instead, because he's a retard.

Suck my cock. YOU don't know what tautology means.

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"I was just exaggerating lmao"
I was.

Nice try.

Except not at all. It was an awful try. Never try again.

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Absolutely.
Thanks for proving yourself wrong. Now eat shit.

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Irony.
Another word you don't understand the meaning of.

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Ok?

LMAO Knock yourself out kid.
Kill yourself, kid.


 
 
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<.<
I love how a discussion about AI boiled down to 'muh dik' arguments.

Serious is getting more seriouser needs a bit of a facelift but it still applies, I haven't got time to comb the thread for every single infraction but this last page is pretty clear as to who is throwing insults. So verb if there are posts by challenger ITT that you feel violate the same rule, please either report them or PM them to me and I'll get to them in due course but for now it's a slap out of serious for a day or so depending on previous.

I'll unlock and clean up this abomination of a thread later but essays to write, revision to do etc etc etc