No degree should cost 20,000 a year at a basic four year state funded school - which is the standard for most Americans today.
Quote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 08:39:56 PMNo degree should cost 20,000 a year at a basic four year state funded school - which is the standard for most Americans today.College tuition was pretty much in control until the government started heavily subsidizing it in 1965."Great Society" my ass.
Quote from: Kupo on January 20, 2015, 08:54:14 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:41:02 PMQuote from: Kupo on January 20, 2015, 08:39:08 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:30:20 PMQuote from: Kupo on January 20, 2015, 08:24:23 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:05:41 PMQuote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 08:02:03 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:01:21 PMObama being a socialist. I'll passoh you.gifIts true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist. Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.#shitPSUsaysSome people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education. I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days."bitches"You're part of the problem.I'm part of the problem?But I'm paying for them to survive. Without me, they die....It's not that simple and you know it >.>Its pretty simple though. Without working people (like myself and many others here) having our money raped from our wallets, the poor can't get their handouts.
Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:41:02 PMQuote from: Kupo on January 20, 2015, 08:39:08 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:30:20 PMQuote from: Kupo on January 20, 2015, 08:24:23 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:05:41 PMQuote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 08:02:03 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:01:21 PMObama being a socialist. I'll passoh you.gifIts true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist. Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.#shitPSUsaysSome people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education. I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days."bitches"You're part of the problem.I'm part of the problem?But I'm paying for them to survive. Without me, they die....It's not that simple and you know it >.>
Quote from: Kupo on January 20, 2015, 08:39:08 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:30:20 PMQuote from: Kupo on January 20, 2015, 08:24:23 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:05:41 PMQuote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 08:02:03 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:01:21 PMObama being a socialist. I'll passoh you.gifIts true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist. Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.#shitPSUsaysSome people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education. I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days."bitches"You're part of the problem.I'm part of the problem?But I'm paying for them to survive. Without me, they die....
Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:30:20 PMQuote from: Kupo on January 20, 2015, 08:24:23 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:05:41 PMQuote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 08:02:03 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:01:21 PMObama being a socialist. I'll passoh you.gifIts true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist. Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.#shitPSUsaysSome people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education. I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days."bitches"You're part of the problem.
Quote from: Kupo on January 20, 2015, 08:24:23 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:05:41 PMQuote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 08:02:03 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:01:21 PMObama being a socialist. I'll passoh you.gifIts true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist. Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.#shitPSUsaysSome people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education. I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days.
Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:05:41 PMQuote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 08:02:03 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:01:21 PMObama being a socialist. I'll passoh you.gifIts true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist. Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.#shitPSUsaysSome people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.
Quote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 08:02:03 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:01:21 PMObama being a socialist. I'll passoh you.gifIts true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist. Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.
Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 08:01:21 PMObama being a socialist. I'll passoh you.gif
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They need to change their lifestyle. I know damn well I could live in minimum wage if I was just by myself.
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Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:01:50 PMThey need to change their lifestyle. I know damn well I could live in minimum wage if I was just by myself.Try it. Leave your wife and kids for a few months and spend only what your states minimum wage is.
Quote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 09:03:07 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:01:50 PMThey need to change their lifestyle. I know damn well I could live in minimum wage if I was just by myself.Try it. Leave your wife and kids for a few months and spend only what your states minimum wage is.No thanks. No reason to throw away everything I worked for.
Yeah makes sense Icy.I should throw away a marriage, my child, and my 80k job to work at McDonalds to prove a point.......
Quote from: BrenMan 94 on January 20, 2015, 08:57:23 PMQuote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 08:39:56 PMNo degree should cost 20,000 a year at a basic four year state funded school - which is the standard for most Americans today.College tuition was pretty much in control until the government started heavily subsidizing it in 1965."Great Society" my ass.I'm aware. Doesn't change my statement.
Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:01:50 PMThey need to change their lifestyle. I know damn well I could live in minimum wage if I was just by myself.Oh you are so full of shit, and you know it.A co-worker of mine had to go on food stamps, and he's one of the most frugal people I know. He makes just about 20 cents above minimum wage and had to have someone move in with him to save on rent costs. Even with that, he still barely has enough for food, gas, utilities, car payments, insurance, etc.
Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:06:06 PMYeah makes sense Icy.I should throw away a marriage, my child, and my 80k job to work at McDonalds to prove a point.......Not saying you have to throw it away.You work the same job - you just don't get to spend anything more than the minimum wage would get you.
Wait, he had to go on food stamps but he can have a car? Bet he has an iPhone too? Because those things are just so necessary. Fuck outta here. Hes like the kid whos parent drives a mercedes, has new jordans every week, and an iPhone 6 but is still on the free lunch program at school.
Quote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 09:07:01 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:06:06 PMYeah makes sense Icy.I should throw away a marriage, my child, and my 80k job to work at McDonalds to prove a point.......Not saying you have to throw it away.You work the same job - you just don't get to spend anything more than the minimum wage would get you.Hmm. I think I could do it. But I already have a place to live so it would kind of be cheating.
Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:08:08 PMWait, he had to go on food stamps but he can have a car? Bet he has an iPhone too? Because those things are just so necessary. Fuck outta here. Hes like the kid whos parent drives a mercedes, has new jordans every week, and an iPhone 6 but is still on the free lunch program at school.Such a poor analogy and excessive stretching...
Quote from: ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ Nick Mc ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ on January 20, 2015, 09:04:59 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:01:50 PMThey need to change their lifestyle. I know damn well I could live in minimum wage if I was just by myself.Oh you are so full of shit, and you know it.A co-worker of mine had to go on food stamps, and he's one of the most frugal people I know. He makes just about 20 cents above minimum wage and had to have someone move in with him to save on rent costs. Even with that, he still barely has enough for food, gas, utilities, car payments, insurance, etc.No I'm really not full of shit. Have I done it? No. But I've known people at 18 who didn't go to college and did it. Wait, he had to go on food stamps but he can have a car? Bet he has an iPhone too? Because those things are just so necessary. Fuck outta here. Hes like the kid whos parent drives a mercedes, has new jordans every week, and an iPhone 6 but is still on the free lunch program at school.
Quote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 09:09:12 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:08:08 PMWait, he had to go on food stamps but he can have a car? Bet he has an iPhone too? Because those things are just so necessary. Fuck outta here. Hes like the kid whos parent drives a mercedes, has new jordans every week, and an iPhone 6 but is still on the free lunch program at school.Such a poor analogy and excessive stretching...But it happened every single year of my schooling.
Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:08:48 PMQuote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 09:07:01 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:06:06 PMYeah makes sense Icy.I should throw away a marriage, my child, and my 80k job to work at McDonalds to prove a point.......Not saying you have to throw it away.You work the same job - you just don't get to spend anything more than the minimum wage would get you.Hmm. I think I could do it. But I already have a place to live so it would kind of be cheating.Stay in your house - you just have to find a way to budget those bills.Good luck with that.
Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:10:23 PMQuote from: Icy on January 20, 2015, 09:09:12 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:08:08 PMWait, he had to go on food stamps but he can have a car? Bet he has an iPhone too? Because those things are just so necessary. Fuck outta here. Hes like the kid whos parent drives a mercedes, has new jordans every week, and an iPhone 6 but is still on the free lunch program at school.Such a poor analogy and excessive stretching...But it happened every single year of my schooling.There were iPhone 6's when you were in school?
Uh, yeah. Cars and phones are necessary you fucking jackass. He needs the car to get to work since he lives out in the rural area near me, and needs the phone to keep in contact with his job, family, and for emergencies.And he had to go on food stamps because whatever money had could spare for food had to go to other things. You admitted yourself you have never lived the lifestyle and you refuse to even have a trial run of such a frugal lifestyle.
Quote from: ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ Nick Mc ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ on January 20, 2015, 09:10:40 PMUh, yeah. Cars and phones are necessary you fucking jackass. He needs the car to get to work since he lives out in the rural area near me, and needs the phone to keep in contact with his job, family, and for emergencies.And he had to go on food stamps because whatever money had could spare for food had to go to other things. You admitted yourself you have never lived the lifestyle and you refuse to even have a trial run of such a frugal lifestyle.You're a fucking idiot. "phones and cars are necessary" HAHAHAHAHA no. Sorry. Spoken like a true rich kid. I said I'd never lived the lifestyle now (as an adult). As a child, I was poor as fuck. My parents didn't own a car until I moved to the suburbs around 2003. Cell Phones and Internet were not even a thought.
Quote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:14:28 PMQuote from: ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ Nick Mc ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ on January 20, 2015, 09:10:40 PMUh, yeah. Cars and phones are necessary you fucking jackass. He needs the car to get to work since he lives out in the rural area near me, and needs the phone to keep in contact with his job, family, and for emergencies.And he had to go on food stamps because whatever money had could spare for food had to go to other things. You admitted yourself you have never lived the lifestyle and you refuse to even have a trial run of such a frugal lifestyle.You're a fucking idiot. "phones and cars are necessary" HAHAHAHAHA no. Sorry. Spoken like a true rich kid. I said I'd never lived the lifestyle now (as an adult). As a child, I was poor as fuck. My parents didn't own a car until I moved to the suburbs around 2003. Cell Phones and Internet were not even a thought.You glossed over my "phones and cars are necessary for work" part. Try reading the full comment next time without your rose-tinted glasses.Also LOL at calling me a rich kid. I'm about as rich as the people I work with that aren't a manager.SpoilerSpoilerWhich isn't fucking rich if you're too dense to understand
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Quote from: ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ Nick Mc ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ on January 20, 2015, 09:17:30 PMQuote from: PSU on January 20, 2015, 09:14:28 PMQuote from: ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ Nick Mc ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ on January 20, 2015, 09:10:40 PMUh, yeah. Cars and phones are necessary you fucking jackass. He needs the car to get to work since he lives out in the rural area near me, and needs the phone to keep in contact with his job, family, and for emergencies.And he had to go on food stamps because whatever money had could spare for food had to go to other things. You admitted yourself you have never lived the lifestyle and you refuse to even have a trial run of such a frugal lifestyle.You're a fucking idiot. "phones and cars are necessary" HAHAHAHAHA no. Sorry. Spoken like a true rich kid. I said I'd never lived the lifestyle now (as an adult). As a child, I was poor as fuck. My parents didn't own a car until I moved to the suburbs around 2003. Cell Phones and Internet were not even a thought.You glossed over my "phones and cars are necessary for work" part. Try reading the full comment next time without your rose-tinted glasses.Also LOL at calling me a rich kid. I'm about as rich as the people I work with that aren't a manager.SpoilerSpoilerWhich isn't fucking rich if you're too dense to understandPhones and Cars are NOT necessary for work. You can say whatever you like to refute that, but its not going to work.
Hey guys, I need this job at McDonalds. I need a car payment and Phone bill to get it though!