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Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

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Full Text of the Speech is Available Now

Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.

Good call.

Unfortunately I have a softball game so I'm going to miss it. I'll read/watch later tonight and come discuss.

Full Text of the Speech is Available Now

Wait they release the entire speech before he makes it? Where's the fun in that

Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

I have. But let's see what he says.

Good call.

Unfortunately I have a softball game so I'm going to miss it. I'll read/watch later tonight and come discuss.

Good luck at your softball game. Hit some bombs to represent the Sep7agon.

I've been trying to get in a league over here with no luck

Good call.

Unfortunately I have a softball game so I'm going to miss it. I'll read/watch later tonight and come discuss.

Good luck at your softball game. Hit some bombs to represent the Sep7agon.

I've been trying to get in a league over here with no luck

I put my name on the free agent list for a couple cities and it took a few seasons to get a call. I had better luck getting on a team through local facebook pages and craigslist.

Drinking Game: Take a shot every time John Boehner scowls.

Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.

#shitPSUsays

Some people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.

Decent enough speech - you can tell he's not giving ideas to pass through Congress, but aiming to establish a Democratic platform for the next handful of elections.

I agree with the need for better, more universal childcare.

Shout out to the Republican (most likely) sitting on her phone.

Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.

#shitPSUsays

Some people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.

Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?

Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education.
I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days.

Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.

#shitPSUsays

Some people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.

Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?

Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education.
I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days.

You keep using the word handouts.

I'm not quite sure that's the appropriate word. Also, cut the "Inner city" rhetoric.

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Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.

#shitPSUsays

Some people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.

Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?

Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education.
I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days.

You keep using the word handouts.

I'm not quite sure that's the appropriate word. Also, cut the "Inner city" rhetoric.

Oh but it is the right word.

Something that the working class pays for so the poor can get free stuff. Handout.

Also, No I'll never cut the "inner city" talk. You may think its racist, but thats whatever. I know the majority of you have never been to/lived in the inner city. Where 75% of people living there are either crack heads or criminals. Those othe 25% are the people I feel sorry for.

#Serious

Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.

#shitPSUsays

Some people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.

Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?

Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education.
I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days.

"bitches"

You're part of the problem. Blanket statements that dismiss entire demographics are misguided and offensive, and are certainly not constructive.

Oh but it is the right word.

Something that the working class pays for so the poor can get free stuff. Handout.

I'd hardly consider my family well off, and I'm not asking for a handout - but I am asking for the outrageous prices for higher university to be reigned in. No degree should cost 20,000 a year at a basic four year state funded school - which is the standard for most Americans today. It is a standard that, if you want a decent paying job, you go to school at least four years, get saddled with debt that hinders you directly after graduation (Seriously, because I am taking a semester off to intern with a company, I have to start paying on my loans the month after graduation. I lose that six month crux for interning), and continues to impact you for years after finishing your degree.

How is continuing to hurt middle and lower class young adults with extreme amounts of student debt, which is the highest amount of debt value in this country, fair and improving in America? Most people aren't asking for free school (At least, not more than the 2 year community colleges) - but there needs to be loan reform, there needs to be reigning in of these prices for school, if you want to continue to see a prospering generation.

Also, No I'll never cut the "inner city" talk. You may think its racist, but thats whatever. I know the majority of you have never been to/lived in the inner city.

I live five minutes from it.

Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.

#shitPSUsays

Some people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.

Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?

Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education.
I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days.

"bitches"

You're part of the problem.

I'm part of the problem?

But I'm paying for them to survive. Without me, they die....

Oh but it is the right word.

Something that the working class pays for so the poor can get free stuff. Handout.

I'd hardly consider my family well off, and I'm not asking for a handout - but I am asking for the outrageous prices for higher university to be reigned in. No degree should cost 20,000 a year at a basic four year state funded school - which is the standard for most Americans today. It is a standard that, if you want a decent paying job, you go to school at least four years, get saddled with debt that hinders you directly after graduation (Seriously, because I am taking a semester off to intern with a company, I have to start paying on my loans the month after graduation. I lose that six month crux for interning), and continues to impact you for years after finishing your degree.

How is continuing to hurt middle and lower class young adults with extreme amounts of student debt, which is the highest amount of debt value in this country, fair and improving in America? Most people aren't asking for free school (At least, not more than the 2 year community colleges) - but there needs to be loan reform, there needs to be reigning in of these prices for school, if you want to continue to see a prospering generation.

Is it expensive? Yes.

Is it worth it? Yes.

No one is forcing you to go to college. There are plenty of successful people that don't go to college.

20k a year really isn't that much when a degree can take your from 40k a year to 80k a year within a job. Its an investment.

You want to give out free community college? Thats fine. More power to them.

But want to do it on my dime? No way in Hell. I already give up 20-30% of my income to the government every year, I dont want to make it more.

No one is forcing you to go to college. There are plenty of successful people that don't go to college.

Not everyone is Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. You hear these dream stories of "Don't go to college, you can the next big CEO!" As fun as that is to believe, for 99% of Americans, that's like telling a six year old "You'll be President!"

A dream, but unlikely

20k a year really isn't that much when a degree can take your from 40k a year to 80k a year within a job. Its an investment.

It is not just about the cost (Which is way to goddamn high), but the problem with loans, which is going to continue crushing the future generations if left unchecked.

Seriously - why the hell do I lose a grace period on my loan for interning and preparing myself for after school? That makes absolutely zero goddamn sense.

Seriously - why the hell do I lose a grace period on my loan for interning and preparing myself for after school? That makes absolutely zero goddamn sense.

Thats just how it is. Although I agree with you on this.

I mean, they just see that you are out of school and assume you have a job and shit. Obviously they should give you like a 6 month grace period. This happened to my wife when she took a year off to travel/hangout with me.

Seriously - why the hell do I lose a grace period on my loan for interning and preparing myself for after school? That makes absolutely zero goddamn sense.

Thats just how it is. Although I agree with you on this.

I mean, they just see that you are out of school and assume you have a job and shit. Obviously they should give you like a 6 month grace period. This happened to my wife when she took a year off to travel/hangout with me.

Huh. I was expecting more fight.

Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.

#shitPSUsays

Some people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.

Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?

Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education.
I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days.

"bitches"

You're part of the problem.

I'm part of the problem?

But I'm paying for them to survive. Without me, they die....

It's not that simple and you know it >.>

Obama being a socialist.

I'll pass

oh you.gif

Its true though. The legislation that hes trying to pass is socialist.

Can't afford college? Get a scholarship or fill out financial aid. Or, heres an idea, get a job and pay for it yourself. Really not that hard.

See people want too many handouts in life. I'll spare you my life story because you probably already know most of it. But what we should be giving away is a fucking work ethic and not free money.

#shitPSUsays

Some people are so miserably unfortunate that yes, it really is that hard.

Oh miserably unfortunate like having to live on 15k a year with a family of 5?

Yeah, I had to do that. Guess what. I got an education.
I didn't bitch and ask for free handouts like these inner city bitches these days.

"bitches"

You're part of the problem.

I'm part of the problem?

But I'm paying for them to survive. Without me, they die....

It's not that simple and you know it >.>

Its pretty simple though. Without working people (like myself and many others here) having our money raped from our wallets, the poor can't get their handouts.