Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on March 05, 2016, 09:39:02 AMOne of several good aspects of the act,, but both parties had been in support of eliminating discrimination based on pre-existing conditions by that time so it's hard to justify Obamacare based on a single policy which would have been adopted by anyone.LOL No they didn't. Only recently have they been against pre existing condition discrimination.
One of several good aspects of the act,, but both parties had been in support of eliminating discrimination based on pre-existing conditions by that time so it's hard to justify Obamacare based on a single policy which would have been adopted by anyone.
Yeah I guess that's why they fought tooth and nail against Obamacare. This was one of the biggest parts of the ACA they were fighting, apart from mandatory health care (which you could argue is the same issue) businesses having to provide for employees if they have more than 50.
wait so before companies can reject you if you had something early on in life? what the fuck
Quote from: Narusaur on March 05, 2016, 03:36:17 PMwait so before companies can reject you if you had something early on in life? what the fuckYup, or charge you an exorbitant amount of money.
Uh no, you didn't.
Quote from: Narusaur on March 05, 2016, 09:12:47 PMno but really how the fuck is denying someone help to live not outlawed before this came to be?How the fuck are you just now aware of this?
no but really how the fuck is denying someone help to live not outlawed before this came to be?
Quote from: Narusaur on March 05, 2016, 09:12:47 PMno but really how the fuck is denying someone help to live not outlawed before this came to be?Insurance is built on the premise that you won't need it; insurance agencies afford to pay bills by hedging against people that will have to pay monthly fees without costing a dime. Getting insurance after already becoming ill is, as Das said, like wrecking your car and then buying car insurance. The real issue, which the ACA doesn't address, is the exorbitant cost of healthcare in the US which makes it effectively impossible to afford treatment outside of owning insurance.
Quote from: Narusaur on March 05, 2016, 09:12:47 PMno but really how the fuck is denying someone help to live not outlawed before this came to be?That's just it - you aren't denied care. If you walk into a hospital with a gunshot wound, they will treat you whether or not your insurance covers it, or if you have insurance at all.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 05, 2016, 10:19:27 PMQuote from: Narusaur on March 05, 2016, 09:12:47 PMno but really how the fuck is denying someone help to live not outlawed before this came to be?That's just it - you aren't denied care. If you walk into a hospital with a gunshot wound, they will treat you whether or not your insurance covers it, or if you have insurance at all.That's not necessarily true, I can remember a documentary I watched a couple of years ago, I a guy had an accident, where multiple of his fingers were cut off, and because he didn't have insurance, they wouldn't reattach all of them back, he was forced to choose which finger he wanted.
Quote from: Verbatim on March 05, 2016, 07:11:21 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 05, 2016, 07:07:03 PMUh no, you didn't.:')Turn that smile upside down
Quote from: challengerX on March 05, 2016, 07:07:03 PMUh no, you didn't.:')
Quote from: challengerX on March 05, 2016, 05:48:48 AMhttps://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016/03/03/brents-letter-president-you-saved-my-lifeQuote"I did not vote for you. Either time. I have voted Republican for the entirety of my life. I proudly wore pins and planted banners displaying my Republican loyalty. I was very vocal in my opposition to you -- particularly the ACA. Before I briefly explain my story allow me to first say this: I am so very sorry. I was so very wrong."You saved my life. My President, you saved my life, and I am eternally grateful."I have a 'pre-existing condition' and so could never purchase health insurance. Only after the ACA came into being could I be covered. Put simply to not take up too much of your time if you are in fact taking the time to read this: I would not be alive without access to care I received due to your law. Thank you for serving me even when I didn't vote for you. Thank you for being my President."I, too, get White House emails.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016/03/03/brents-letter-president-you-saved-my-lifeQuote"I did not vote for you. Either time. I have voted Republican for the entirety of my life. I proudly wore pins and planted banners displaying my Republican loyalty. I was very vocal in my opposition to you -- particularly the ACA. Before I briefly explain my story allow me to first say this: I am so very sorry. I was so very wrong."You saved my life. My President, you saved my life, and I am eternally grateful."I have a 'pre-existing condition' and so could never purchase health insurance. Only after the ACA came into being could I be covered. Put simply to not take up too much of your time if you are in fact taking the time to read this: I would not be alive without access to care I received due to your law. Thank you for serving me even when I didn't vote for you. Thank you for being my President."
"I did not vote for you. Either time. I have voted Republican for the entirety of my life. I proudly wore pins and planted banners displaying my Republican loyalty. I was very vocal in my opposition to you -- particularly the ACA. Before I briefly explain my story allow me to first say this: I am so very sorry. I was so very wrong."You saved my life. My President, you saved my life, and I am eternally grateful."I have a 'pre-existing condition' and so could never purchase health insurance. Only after the ACA came into being could I be covered. Put simply to not take up too much of your time if you are in fact taking the time to read this: I would not be alive without access to care I received due to your law. Thank you for serving me even when I didn't vote for you. Thank you for being my President."