So more claims as undeniable proof from news outlets that have admitted a bias in the campaign?

Interesting.

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on December 10, 2016, 07:47:23 PM

Oh, I don't know...

Ummm...

When every single news source, when our own government, when every single non-affiliated group says "Russia spread fake news" you still defend it?

I think you should put the tinfoil away.

Look, taking the adage of "never trust anyone over 30" is cool, but come on.  Stop denying the literal Everest of evidence in front of you.

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on December 10, 2016, 11:02:07 PM

Ummm...

When every single news source, when our own government, when every single non-affiliated group says "Russia spread fake news" you still defend it?

I think you should put the tinfoil away.

Look, taking the adage of "never trust anyone over 30" is cool, but come on.  Stop denying the literal Everest of evidence in front of you.

>"advocating skepticism of claims made without evidence makes one a tinfoil hatter"

Um...

I'd like to see this "Everest of evidence," thank you very much.

You post sn Alt Right Blog?

Way to prove me right, bro.

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on December 10, 2016, 11:09:24 PM

Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on December 10, 2016, 11:07:00 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on December 10, 2016, 11:02:07 PM

Ummm...

When every single news source, when our own government, when every single non-affiliated group says "Russia spread fake news" you still defend it?

I think you should put the tinfoil away.

Look, taking the adage of "never trust anyone over 30" is cool, but come on.  Stop denying the literal Everest of evidence in front of you.

>"advocating skepticism of claims made without evidence makes one a tinfoil hatter"

Um...

I'd like to see this "Everest of evidence," thank you very much.

You post sn Alt Right Blog?

Way to prove me right, bro.

LMAO

Gleen Greenwald is not alt-right by any stretch of the imagination.

Make that font as big as you want. It doesn't prove you right.

Russian shill.

I may be s drunken troll, but I am an AMERICAN drunken troll

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on December 10, 2016, 11:12:52 PM

Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on December 10, 2016, 11:11:06 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on December 10, 2016, 11:09:24 PM

Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on December 10, 2016, 11:07:00 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on December 10, 2016, 11:02:07 PM

Ummm...

When every single news source, when our own government, when every single non-affiliated group says "Russia spread fake news" you still defend it?

I think you should put the tinfoil away.

Look, taking the adage of "never trust anyone over 30" is cool, but come on.  Stop denying the literal Everest of evidence in front of you.

>"advocating skepticism of claims made without evidence makes one a tinfoil hatter"

Um...

I'd like to see this "Everest of evidence," thank you very much.

You post sn Alt Right Blog?

Way to prove me right, bro.

LMAO

Gleen Greenwald is not alt-right by any stretch of the imagination.

Make that font as big as you want. It doesn't prove you right.

Russian shill.

I may be s drunken troll, but I am an AMERICAN drunken troll

Alcohol has clearly left you with permanent brain damage.

Booty. Halo Wars. Nutella. Info Wars.

No. Never will.

A foreign power interfered with our election.

To me? Anyone who defends that may as well move to that country. I refuse to ride Putin's cock

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on December 10, 2016, 11:19:27 PM

No. Never will.

A foreign power interfered with our election.

To me? Anyone who defends that may as well move to that country. I refuse to ride Putin's cock

>when you have zero evidence but believe it anyway

this is why I use the word cuck unironically

Believe what you will in the face of evidence. Maybe you shill for Trump. I don't care. Our election was tampered with. If you're ok with that, then there's little I can do to change your mind. Just gotta ask: when you ride Putin's cock, is it reverse cowgirl or do you look into his eyes when he cums in you?

Also, Carlos Slim is Mexican and owns the NYT. Should we be calling him out for trying to influence the election for Hillary?

I hear a lot about this Russian-pushed 'fake news' but I don't think I've ever actually seen any.

I think it's mostly an establishment buzzword to explain why it's not Democrats' fault for losing. (Hint: they picked a weak candidate) Don't take the bait, though.

Quote from: MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE on December 11, 2016, 02:41:56 AM

I hear a lot about this Russian-pushed 'fake news' but I don't think I've ever actually seen any.

I think it's mostly an establishment buzzword to explain why it's not Democrats' fault for losing. (Hint: they picked a weak candidate) Don't take the bait, though.

I know this may sound like liberal propaganda or US propaganda but it is well known that the Russians have been focused over the last few years on a massive pr campaign. Mainly focused on mass disinformation to confuse the populace. It's kind of their game plan, anything anyone says and you basically throw a bunch of arguments whether fake or not, add what about isms.

The Russians love mass disinformation campaigns and mind you for them to expand they need the west to be unstable and dealing with local unrest. Why they have been heavily focused on tearing apart the EU by funding the different parties within European countries, whether left or right, to mainly pull their countries out of the EU. If they succeed they can easily move into the Balkan and actually annex a bunch of old soviet satellite stores and not many countries can do anything about it.

By creating distrust in Nato as well, I see them trying to weeken the resolve of the leaders of the US for standing up for the Alliance. If anything if they can make the US to leave it due to some excuse, it really makes all of Europe a playground for Russia. The more countries they can pull from it, even Turkey who they are both strong arming and giving some nice concessions if they listen, the easier it is for them to swing their club around.

I do wonder though if the Chinese may start getting worried, yes they have a huge economy and are trying to expand eastward, but I feel they will soon have to deal with the Russian threat as they are only allies of convenience and naturally expected to but heads due to territorial friction. Their spheres of influence are always colliding with each other. India may take advantage of this and stay out, and the Americans will keep propping Pakistan up, because it is the most significant force in the region that can counter and really drain the resources of the three major players I  that region.

Overall the Russians trying to influence the US election is guaranteed. The question really is to what end goal. There is a report going around NYT and other more trustful sources that a couple sources from the CIA, that not only DNC were hacked but the RNC were also hacked by the Russians. Now the RNC hack theory I am not so sure about, but the DNC is well known to be done by the Russian intelligence agency we'll either their agency or groups working in close unison with them. This is mainly due to a number of verifiable and we'll respected cyber security firms doing an assessment on the hacks and coming to the same conclusion based on many similarities to other Russian Cyber attacks around the world most notably the one in Germany.

Personally I see their end goal is basically to create unrest, push people further to the fringe by supporting groups that are alt-right and strong left wing groups, to mainly push the populace of America to be more isolationist and more willing to hate each other over any foreign threat. The main plan is to make it hard for the country to get involved and find the political will to support agreements like Nato and most of all undermine the major institutions like the UN and the World Bank. Thus cutting them off from Europe and allowing the Russians to expand west and and expand their sphere of influence over their old states and further into heart of Europe.

Americas best counter to that though is to create and support a strong Europe, Iran in a weird sense will be a great tool in that as a strong Iran erodes the Russian influence in Middle East. Isolate China and force the Chinese to expand west and north, thus putting the Chinese and the Russians in more conflicts over land and resources.

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Quote from: باب عيد الميلاد on December 10, 2016, 10:29:16 AM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on December 10, 2016, 02:33:02 AM

We're living in unprecedented times. Did Russia at least have an influence via hacks into the DNC and by propagating fake news? Undoubtedly.

Those sneaky commies rigged the campaign by informing American voters? How dare they!

A flood of fake news is "informing voters."

K

"anything I dont agree with is fake news"