There were more than 1,000 newly recorded cases of female genital mutilation (FGM) in England between April and June, NHS data reveals.For the first time the official figures were expanded to include information from general practices and mental health trusts.They show nine cases where girls were under 18 when first seen.FGM is illegal across the UK and it is illegal to take someone abroad for this purpose.Not all cases would have taken place in the past three months - some may have been picked up at routine appointments for other health issues many years after the incidents occurred.And the report did not look at whether the cases took place in the UK or abroad.Sometimes called female circumcision, FGM refers to procedures including the partial or total removal of external female genital organs for non-medical reasons.It can cause issues including severe pain, infections, pregnancy complications and even death.The Health and Social Care Information Centre figures covered cases of FGM reported by the women and girls themselves and others recorded by clinicians during appointments.'Global dimension'Experts say figures on the practice have been patchy and it is difficult to know exactly how many women have been affected by FGM.But the government has plans to make data collection mandatory across many areas of the NHS.Tanya Barron of the charity Plan UK said global action was needed to tackle this problem.She added: "It's shocking to see the extent of FGM here in the UK."We've seen hugely increased attention on this problem in the past few years and we are now waking up to the scale of this terrible practice."What we must always keep in mind though is that this is not specifically a British problem."FGM is a practice with an inherently global dimension."And while it's vital that we do everything we can to stop FGM here in the UK, as well as to support the girls and women affected by it, the reality is that this practice won't end in the UK until it is ended worldwide."Analysis: What do the numbers show?Charities say it is very difficult to know exactly how many women have been affected by FGM in the UK.And many of the cases recorded by the NHS in the last three months will have not have taken place recently.There are a number of reasons women or girls do not talk openly about FGM soon after it happens - including the fear of stigma or getting people into trouble.Some incidents may come to light years later - for example at a hospital appointment for an unrelated issue or during an antenatal visit.What is new is a concerted push to collect more data on FGM.In the last few months clinicians in acute hospitals in England have been told it is mandatory to record any cases they see - whether they were previously recorded by NHS systems or not.And in October this reporting will be mandatory for GP practices and mental health specialists as well.Many practices have already started collating these figures and some have been used in this latest report.For these reasons we can't compare any previous figures and so experts don't yet have a sense of what the trend is.But there are many experts who hope that more data will help them better understand the scale of the problem.
tfw one of many millions of males mutilated in US
Is it bad that right away I blame the Muslims?Quote from: Tsirist on September 24, 2015, 10:41:23 AMtfw one of many millions of males mutilated in USYou should be glad.
Quote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 24, 2015, 10:48:59 AMIs it bad that right away I blame the Muslims?Quote from: Tsirist on September 24, 2015, 10:41:23 AMtfw one of many millions of males mutilated in USYou should be glad.Why would I be glad about that? Do I not have a human right to a choice?
Are you glad you were born? You didn't make that choice, either.
Quote from: Tsirist on September 24, 2015, 10:54:44 AMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 24, 2015, 10:48:59 AMIs it bad that right away I blame the Muslims?Quote from: Tsirist on September 24, 2015, 10:41:23 AMtfw one of many millions of males mutilated in USYou should be glad.Why would I be glad about that? Do I not have a human right to a choice?By the time you're old enough to make the correct choice, the recovery is prolonged and painful.
Of course there's no mention of who is actually doing this from the BBC.
>but muh HIVSafe practices should be your main concern here. Don't bareback, don't use gym saunas, don't sleep around, and get tested.
Quote from: Kupo on September 24, 2015, 11:12:03 AM>but muh HIVSafe practices should be your main concern here. Don't bareback, don't use gym saunas, don't sleep around, and get tested.Until we wisen up and confine, condemn, and dispose of all HIV carrying persons, every single practice that can help should be enacted.
Quote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 24, 2015, 11:16:05 AMQuote from: Kupo on September 24, 2015, 11:12:03 AM>but muh HIVSafe practices should be your main concern here. Don't bareback, don't use gym saunas, don't sleep around, and get tested.Until we wisen up and confine, condemn, and dispose of all HIV carrying persons, every single practice that can help should be enacted.I should be able, as a person without HIV, to make the choice about my own circumcision, and also to be able to make the decision to risk getting HIV from sexual acts with others, which has no relation to circumcision anyways.
Calling it "female circumcision" is glib as fuck.Sorry, wormdicks--foreskin isn't anywhere near as important as the clitoris. Don't inject this issue with your fucking non-issue.
It is your duty as a patriotic citizen to bring about the end of this disease by ensuring that it cannot spread to anybody else.
Quote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 24, 2015, 11:22:58 AMIt is your duty as a patriotic citizen to bring about the end of this disease by ensuring that it cannot spread to anybody else.Well I'd be in favor of raising taxes to better finance HIV research if that's a sort of social/governmental/authoritarian approach you want to bring to the table. You know, in the same vein as forcibly making the decision to modify someone's genitals, except with an actual potential to pay off. I'm all in favor of magically killing the disease, but circumcision has no relation to this matter. What are you trying to say?
Quote from: Tsirist on September 24, 2015, 11:27:11 AMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 24, 2015, 11:22:58 AMIt is your duty as a patriotic citizen to bring about the end of this disease by ensuring that it cannot spread to anybody else.Well I'd be in favor of raising taxes to better finance HIV research if that's a sort of social/governmental/authoritarian approach you want to bring to the table. You know, in the same vein as forcibly making the decision to modify someone's genitals, except with an actual potential to pay off. I'm all in favor of magically killing the disease, but circumcision has no relation to this matter. What are you trying to say?Whoa whoa whoa, guy. Taxation is theft, especially for such a niche application.Bullets are cheaper, anyway.
Quote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 24, 2015, 11:16:05 AMQuote from: Kupo on September 24, 2015, 11:12:03 AM>but muh HIVSafe practices should be your main concern here. Don't bareback, don't use gym saunas, don't sleep around, and get tested.Until we wisen up and confine, condemn, and dispose of all HIV carrying persons, every single practice that can help should be enacted.In a way that does not require violating human rights.The false sense of security, nor the awful state of health education, haven't helped America, seeing as plenty of similarly developed countries actually have lower HIV rates despite not practicing circumcision--including the United Kingdom, Ireland, Belgium, Germany, China, New Zealand, Poland, Switzerland, Italy, France, Austria, Canada, Iceland, Mexico, the Netherlands, and Denmark.
Quote from: Kupo on September 24, 2015, 11:35:08 AMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on September 24, 2015, 11:16:05 AMQuote from: Kupo on September 24, 2015, 11:12:03 AM>but muh HIVSafe practices should be your main concern here. Don't bareback, don't use gym saunas, don't sleep around, and get tested.Until we wisen up and confine, condemn, and dispose of all HIV carrying persons, every single practice that can help should be enacted.In a way that does not require violating human rights.The false sense of security, nor the awful state of health education, haven't helped America, seeing as plenty of similarly developed countries actually have lower HIV rates despite not practicing circumcision--including the United Kingdom, Ireland, Belgium, Germany, China, New Zealand, Poland, Switzerland, Italy, France, Austria, Canada, Iceland, Mexico, the Netherlands, and Denmark.Human rights are secondary to utilitarian doctrine.
Wait, this is self-mutilation? Because then it's a goddamn crime to make it illegal or decriminalized in any way. If you want to chop off your arm, that's your right. No different here.
Also, the concept of "Fuck it, if you want to do it then do it!" is fucking stupid.
Quote from: spewky bewgie on September 24, 2015, 02:53:52 PMAlso, the concept of "Fuck it, if you want to do it then do it!" is fucking stupid.Um, no. It's literally the basis of morality. It's your body, and if you want to improve or destroy it in any way, that's your choice.
NHS uncovers 1,000 female genital mutilation cases in the UK, April-June
