Where is Bernie Sanders?
What the fuckIs this realI had no idea there were people who actually took trump seriously as a candidate
And republicans talk shit about democrats supporting hillary or bernie.lol.Sit the fuck down.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 16, 2015, 11:21:27 AMAnd republicans talk shit about democrats supporting hillary or bernie.lol.Sit the fuck down.How does one wrong justify another wrong?Both sides are being fucking dumb at the moment.
There's "I disagree", then there's "HOLY SHIT Y'ALL HAVE GONE OFF THE DEEP END" which the GOP clearly has.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 16, 2015, 12:03:11 PMThere's "I disagree", then there's "HOLY SHIT Y'ALL HAVE GONE OFF THE DEEP END" which the GOP clearly has.Yeah, but when I look at it, both sides have gone off the deep end. You only think you haven't gone of the deep end because we're discussing your chosen candidate, which exactly the same thought process Trump supporters have. 2016 is just looking to be a shit election year all round at this rate (although, as Icy said, it could all change), because neither side can see just how fucking nuts they are. If it ends up with the presidency being a race between Sanders and Trump (which I highly doubt, but I wouldn't rule it out, per se) and were I American I'd just vote for a third party.
2016 is just looking to be a shit election year all round at this rate (although, as Icy said, it could all change), because neither side can see just how fucking nuts they are. If it ends up with the presidency being a race between Sanders and Trump (which I highly doubt, but I wouldn't rule it out, per se) and were I American I'd just vote for a third party.
Sanders calling for single payer healthcare and raising the minimum wage.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 16, 2015, 02:01:27 PMSanders calling for single payer healthcare and raising the minimum wage.Sanders is still a fucking lunatic for both of those things. And then of course there's all the HURR DURR WALL STREET rhetoric that he doesn't stop with, and his bullshit infrastructure and tax plans. Trump is just par the course when it comes to the Republicans, and so is Sanders with the Democrats. Trump is no doubt more reprehensible as a person, but that's just because he's picked the conservative poison; Sanders' liberal poison is no less toxic.
Supporting single payer healthcare is lunatic-level, now?
Quote from: Mad Max on July 16, 2015, 02:53:44 PMSupporting single payer healthcare is lunatic-level, now?I was thinking more about his minimum wage proposals, but yeah single-payer is pretty fucking crappy at the end of the day. If Britain can't administer a single-payer system with any competence, then the US government sure as shit can't. SHI systems like those in Germany have much better outcomes, usually for lower costs.
I don't think you understand how fucking shit our healthcare system was before the ACA
Quote from: Mad Max on July 16, 2015, 03:01:10 PMI don't think you understand how fucking shit our healthcare system was before the ACAYeah, I do. But so what? Doesn't mean you throw it all to the wind and go single-payer "just 'cause". Hell, you could probably make several reforms to the US healthcare system to improve it drastically, without changing the entire system.