My grandpa is starting to slip, I think

 
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So, I'm at my grandma's house tonight. My grandpa has slept pretty much solidly for the past three days, but other than that he hasn't been odd in any way. Today, however, when my grandma walked across the living room to the cupboard under the stairs my grandpa asked "How did you make your way around there? Did you feel your way around?"

At first I'd thought he'd gone blind, but that was stupid because he was following her with his eyes. When she asked him what she meant, he said she had to be quiet because he was watching out for the kids. My grandma thinks he thought he was back in the Upland's children home where he used to work. She also thinks he'd just woken up; my great grandma, who developed dementia, would do a similar thing where she'd wake up following a dream and just launch into explaining it as if it were fact.

He just isn't making a whole lot of sense really, although I wouldn't go so far as to call him persistently disoriented. My grandma thinks he may have had a stroke, but I doubt it to be honest. I know he has been hallucinating though. I'm doing some Google searches, but it isn't really yielding anything. Anybody have any ideas/personal experience with this sort of thing?


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Yes, uhm, doesn't sound like a stroke, symptoms would be a bit more grave

At the very worst it sounds like early signs of dementia, at the very least it could've been he slept too much/little or it wasn't a restful sleep (i.e. sleep apnea).



 
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Does he take sleeping medication by any chance? I know that sleeping meds can mess around with people memory wise a little bit. Some people can be a little disorientated after they wake up or have trouble remembering what's what.


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My wife's grandma suffers from dementia. It's pretty heartbreaking, and she doesn't even remember my wife's name or really anyone except her own husband. The prospect of one day suffering from dementia and Alzheimer's is terrifying to me.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
The prospect of one day suffering from dementia and Alzheimer's is terrifying to me.
I feel the same way. Losing my life doesn't scare me, losing my mind does.


 
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I see dementia all the time working my job. It presents in different ways - some people are "mildly" demented, where you can see they're a little off but relatively normal-ish, while others are so far gone it's apparent a mile away.


 
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Also, my apologies Meta. Not apologies, I guess, but condolences. I've gotten to know people who had altzheimers and watched them slip and progress into less and less states of awareness until they were no longer able to function on their own without being a danger to themselves.

I imagine dementia is likely a similar case. I've never had such a thing occur among relatives of mine. Just people I've gotten to know. The best that I can say is that I give you my condolences. I can imagine what it's like having to sit and watch, and being able to do nothing. And I'm sorry that's how it has to be, both for you to watch and for your grandfather to go through.

Even to people who're good with words, there's some things that can't properly be responded to. I can't even say anything in a cheerful manner like "best of luck!" or "I hope things go better."

But, as close as I can get to it, I understand what you're getting at.


 
 
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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Alzheimers is probably one of the reasons why I smoke.


 
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Alzheimers is probably one of the reasons why I smoke.
...So you can risk getting it sooner?

That's intelligent.


 
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that has nothing to do with anti-natalism, but okay

if someone fears becoming demented, which is a perfectly rational fear, they should have the right to euthanize themselves
that's an anti-natalist proposition
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If someone wants to kill themselves, they should have that right. That's literally all I said.

It would be better if you never born in the first place.


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It would be better if you never born in the first place.

I always find this hilarious. Anti-natalism takes the cake for the dumbest ideology to ever surface on the planet.


 
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Coming from you, this is a compliment.


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I neither fear, nor despise.
If someone wants to kill themselves, they should have that right.

SecondClass would agree with you on that


 
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Most intelligent people would agree with me on that.


 
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If someone wants to kill themselves, they should have that right. That's literally all I said.

It would be better if you never born in the first place.
No, they shouldn't. A mother of two shouldn't have the "right" to kill herself because she feels like it.
This is getting out of topic, but rights don't exist.

Just because you have a child doesn't mean that you should take care of it. It's the right thing to do morally, and society tells you to do so, but for you as an individual, if you have 0 interest, it has 0 purpose. You're thinking about the children's best here, because that's the best for humanity; "children are the future"; and the fact that organisms have children is proof that thinking about having a child that will have a child is what living organisms want.

Once in a while, discrepancies happen, where people don't have these normal needs and interests, and for them, it's normal. For you, taking care of your children is normal, but for them, it's not. Psychopaths can completely neglect children, and just leave them one day when they're bored.

Cheat is asexual, so he won't be spreading genes, so most people see him as a fault in some aspect. For him, he has no interest in having sex, but because we do, we judge him.

When I say we, I mean the general population.

What I'm trying to say is that we can't judge choices correctly, because we're not the people making them. We judge things by our standards, and what we deem right. When someone else has other standards, we see them as faulty.
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If someone wants to kill themselves, they should have that right. That's literally all I said.

It would be better if you never born in the first place.
No, they shouldn't. A mother of two shouldn't have the "right" to kill herself because she feels like it.
It's her life. Are some people more objectionable for killing themselves, given their circumstances? Yes. That mother would be a fucking cunt for killing herself, given her position. But she still has the right to do it.


 
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Because we're fucktards.


 
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Because it isn't a good option.
Sometimes.

You know what? I agree with you. If you have children in your custody, the moral imperative for you to take care of those children is such that you'd lose the right to kill yourself. I think having kids is bad in the first place, so committing suicide when you've left so much responsibility in your wake would be the ultimate act of cuntery.

The only trouble is, how you do you punish someone who's fucking dead.


 
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But no, in any other circumstance, I can't justify not legalizing assisted suicide. You brought up maybe the one circumstance where it wouldn't be okay, and I had honestly never thought of it before, so, thank you.
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Challenger once again proves his idiocy. No one, no matter the circumstance, has an obligation to continue existing. Anyone has the right to kill themselves, whenever they want to.

OT: That's really terrible. I don't know if dementia is hereditary, but it can't help that it runs in your family. Has he seen a doctor about this at all?


 
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