Following in the footsteps of more than half of Orange County cities, Irvine on Tuesday is set to consider displaying the phrase “In God We Trust” in its council chambers.Doing so would be appropriate because Irvine is home to “more than 80 institutions of faith,” said Mayor Steven Choi, who requested the discussion.Approval would make Irvine the 20th city in Orange County to display the phrase at City Hall.He suggested putting the text near the city seal, or fashioning a graphic that would combine the U.S. flag and the text, or the city seal and the text.An organization headed by a former Bakersfield councilwoman is behind the push to get elected officials to display the phrase. In 2002, Jacquie Sullivan led the Bakersfield City Council in approving the display of the motto in that city’s council chambers.Five years later, Westminster was the first Orange County city to follow suit, according to Sullivan’s organization, In God We Trust – America.Since then, 18 other cities in Orange County have done the same.Some of the votes have spurred controversy. In 2011 in Lake Forest, for example, the city’s 3-2 decision to become the 16th in Orange County to display the motto followed contentious discussion.Critics say the motto excludes those who don’t believe in God, and intertwines the workings of church and state.Those in favor say the phrase honors the country’s history and values. Proponents point to Congress’ 2011 reaffirmation of the phase as the nation’s motto and encouragement to include the phrase inside public schools and government buildings.The public portion of Irvine’s council meeting begins at 5 p.m. Tuesday at 1 Civic Center Plaza. The item is last on the agenda.
If you don't believe in god, you're going to hell.
Well it is the official motto of the United States.
Who cares?
Quote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?
Quote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?
Quote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?
Quote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.
How does it hurt you?
At this point just be glad it isn't something like "In Hubbard We Trust". I know Cali has a huge Scientology problem.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thought
Quote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:46:42 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.QuoteHow does it hurt you?
Quote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.
What a dumbass thing to say.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:48:33 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:47:57 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:46:42 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.QuoteHow does it hurt you?QuoteWhat a dumbass thing to say.
Quote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:47:57 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:46:42 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.QuoteHow does it hurt you?QuoteWhat a dumbass thing to say.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:50:39 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:49:17 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:48:33 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:47:57 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:46:42 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.QuoteHow does it hurt you?QuoteWhat a dumbass thing to say."hurr durr i'm only trolling!"Seriously shut the fuck up.pretty sad if you're really not trollingyou're just another overly sensitive fedora tipper that gets his feelings hurt over words on a public buildinglet me direct you to the website you're looking for: https://www.reddit.com/
Quote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:49:17 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:48:33 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:47:57 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:46:42 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.QuoteHow does it hurt you?QuoteWhat a dumbass thing to say."hurr durr i'm only trolling!"Seriously shut the fuck up.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:51:43 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:50:39 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:49:17 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:48:33 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:47:57 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:46:42 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.QuoteHow does it hurt you?QuoteWhat a dumbass thing to say."hurr durr i'm only trolling!"Seriously shut the fuck up.pretty sad if you're really not trollingyou're just another overly sensitive fedora tipper that gets his feelings hurt over words on a public buildinglet me direct you to the website you're looking for: https://www.reddit.com/Well I'm not a fucking troll, so I'm not sure why I would troll about why religious shit doesn't belong on government buildings.Get the fuck outta here.can you actually give a good reason why it shouldn't be there?other than that it hurts your feelings
Quote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:51:43 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:50:39 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:49:17 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:48:33 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:47:57 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:46:42 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.QuoteHow does it hurt you?QuoteWhat a dumbass thing to say."hurr durr i'm only trolling!"Seriously shut the fuck up.pretty sad if you're really not trollingyou're just another overly sensitive fedora tipper that gets his feelings hurt over words on a public buildinglet me direct you to the website you're looking for: https://www.reddit.com/Well I'm not a fucking troll, so I'm not sure why I would troll about why religious shit doesn't belong on government buildings.Get the fuck outta here.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:54:52 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:54:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:51:43 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:50:39 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:49:17 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:48:33 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:47:57 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:46:42 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.QuoteHow does it hurt you?QuoteWhat a dumbass thing to say."hurr durr i'm only trolling!"Seriously shut the fuck up.pretty sad if you're really not trollingyou're just another overly sensitive fedora tipper that gets his feelings hurt over words on a public buildinglet me direct you to the website you're looking for: https://www.reddit.com/Well I'm not a fucking troll, so I'm not sure why I would troll about why religious shit doesn't belong on government buildings.Get the fuck outta here.can you actually give a good reason why it shouldn't be there?other than that it hurts your feelingsBecause we're not a fucking theocracy, you fucking retard. Keep your fucking religion to yourself, it doesn't belong on our fucking buildings.but what are the actual negative effects of it?
Quote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:54:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:51:43 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:50:39 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:49:17 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:48:33 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:47:57 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:46:42 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.QuoteHow does it hurt you?QuoteWhat a dumbass thing to say."hurr durr i'm only trolling!"Seriously shut the fuck up.pretty sad if you're really not trollingyou're just another overly sensitive fedora tipper that gets his feelings hurt over words on a public buildinglet me direct you to the website you're looking for: https://www.reddit.com/Well I'm not a fucking troll, so I'm not sure why I would troll about why religious shit doesn't belong on government buildings.Get the fuck outta here.can you actually give a good reason why it shouldn't be there?other than that it hurts your feelingsBecause we're not a fucking theocracy, you fucking retard. Keep your fucking religion to yourself, it doesn't belong on our fucking buildings.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:56:51 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:55:54 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:54:52 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:54:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:51:43 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:50:39 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:49:17 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:48:33 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:47:57 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:46:42 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.QuoteHow does it hurt you?QuoteWhat a dumbass thing to say."hurr durr i'm only trolling!"Seriously shut the fuck up.pretty sad if you're really not trollingyou're just another overly sensitive fedora tipper that gets his feelings hurt over words on a public buildinglet me direct you to the website you're looking for: https://www.reddit.com/Well I'm not a fucking troll, so I'm not sure why I would troll about why religious shit doesn't belong on government buildings.Get the fuck outta here.can you actually give a good reason why it shouldn't be there?other than that it hurts your feelingsBecause we're not a fucking theocracy, you fucking retard. Keep your fucking religion to yourself, it doesn't belong on our fucking buildings.but what are the actual negative effects of it?I'm not sure what fucking part of "religion doesn't belong in our government" you don't fucking understand, shithead.but its not in the government its on a building
Quote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:55:54 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:54:52 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:54:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:53:09 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:51:43 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:50:39 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:49:17 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:48:33 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:47:57 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:46:42 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:46:13 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:44:30 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:43:16 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:41:06 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:38:55 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 12, 2015, 10:36:49 PMQuote from: Esoteric on July 12, 2015, 10:13:11 PMWho cares?People who don't want religious shit lining the walls of their public buildings, perhaps?How does it hurt you?It compromises the integrity of our public institutions. We are not a theocracy. Religion has no place in our government.QuoteHow does it hurt you?Is that how we measure things? If it physically hurts me or not?Fuck off.that's what i thoughtSo we should do whatever we want as long as we're not physically injuring someone? What a dumbass thing to say.QuoteHow does it hurt you?QuoteWhat a dumbass thing to say."hurr durr i'm only trolling!"Seriously shut the fuck up.pretty sad if you're really not trollingyou're just another overly sensitive fedora tipper that gets his feelings hurt over words on a public buildinglet me direct you to the website you're looking for: https://www.reddit.com/Well I'm not a fucking troll, so I'm not sure why I would troll about why religious shit doesn't belong on government buildings.Get the fuck outta here.can you actually give a good reason why it shouldn't be there?other than that it hurts your feelingsBecause we're not a fucking theocracy, you fucking retard. Keep your fucking religion to yourself, it doesn't belong on our fucking buildings.but what are the actual negative effects of it?I'm not sure what fucking part of "religion doesn't belong in our government" you don't fucking understand, shithead.