Most controversial public figures whom you admire?

More Than Mortal · January 22, 2015, 01:44:21 PM

They don't necessarily have to be explicitly political, but any controversial public figure will probably have had some sort of impact on the political landscape.
For me:

- Alan Greenspan.

- Gerald Ford.

- Helmut Kohl.

- Lawrence Krauss.

- Michael Shermer.

- Sam Harris.

- Christopher Hitchens.

- Friedrich Nietzsche.

- Ludwig Erhard.

PSU · January 22, 2015, 01:51:12 PM

Johnny Manziel

Joe Paterno

Azumarill · January 22, 2015, 02:08:29 PM

2 chainz

DAS B00T x2 · January 22, 2015, 02:15:15 PM

I support Bill Cosby.

rC · January 22, 2015, 02:20:16 PM

Quote from: PSU on January 22, 2015, 01:51:12 PM

Johnny Manziel

Joe Paterno

Jerry Sandusky?

PSU · January 22, 2015, 02:21:07 PM

Quote from: RC on January 22, 2015, 02:20:16 PM

Quote from: PSU on January 22, 2015, 01:51:12 PM
Johnny Manziel

Joe Paterno
Jerry Sandusky?

No, Joe Paterno

rC · January 22, 2015, 02:21:20 PM

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Quote from: PSU on January 22, 2015, 01:51:12 PM
Johnny Manziel

Joe Paterno
Jerry Sandusky?

No, Joe Paterno

Jerry Sandusky.

More Than Mortal · January 22, 2015, 02:22:38 PM

Quote from: RC on January 22, 2015, 02:21:20 PM

Quote from: PSU on January 22, 2015, 02:21:07 PM
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Quote from: PSU on January 22, 2015, 01:51:12 PM
Johnny Manziel

Joe Paterno
Jerry Sandusky?

No, Joe Paterno
Jerry Sandusky.

Did he rape his wife, or something?

rC · January 22, 2015, 02:23:41 PM

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Quote from: PSU on January 22, 2015, 01:51:12 PM
Johnny Manziel

Joe Paterno
Jerry Sandusky?

No, Joe Paterno
Jerry Sandusky.
Did he rape his wife, or something?

Well, it wasn't his wife...

More Than Mortal · January 22, 2015, 02:25:15 PM

Quote from: RC on January 22, 2015, 02:23:41 PM

Well, it wasn't his wife...

Just googled him.

My kinda man.

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BaconShelf · January 23, 2015, 05:01:03 AM

Quote from: Dustin' on January 22, 2015, 05:31:08 PM

Hitler, because his actions ultimately led to a better world than we'd have without WWII.

inb4 angsty teens get angsty because we all don't share the same opinion

The fact that he brought a country back from economic ruin to being one of the world's superpowers isn't something that should just be shoved under the rug. If he'd have advanced only another 20 miles and hit Moscow, he would have likely won the war.

Super Irish · January 23, 2015, 07:38:33 AM

Quote from: Bacon's Shelf on January 23, 2015, 05:01:03 AM

Quote from: Dustin' on January 22, 2015, 05:31:08 PM
Hitler, because his actions ultimately led to a better world than we'd have without WWII.

inb4 angsty teens get angsty because we all don't share the same opinion

The fact that he brought a country back from economic ruin to being one of the world's superpowers isn't something that should just be shoved under the rug. If he'd have advanced only another 20 miles and hit Moscow, he would have likely won the war.

I would attribute Germany's economic success to his finance minister (I know there was Schacht(?) and Goering, but the latter turned it into a short term war economy rather than long term stability plans).

...but Hitler certainly knew how to garner support and rile up a crowd, I'll give him that.

BaconShelf · January 23, 2015, 08:40:20 AM

Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on January 23, 2015, 07:41:04 AM

Quote from: SuperIrish on January 23, 2015, 07:38:33 AM
Quote from: Bacon's Shelf on January 23, 2015, 05:01:03 AM
Quote from: Dustin' on January 22, 2015, 05:31:08 PM
Hitler, because his actions ultimately led to a better world than we'd have without WWII.

inb4 angsty teens get angsty because we all don't share the same opinion

The fact that he brought a country back from economic ruin to being one of the world's superpowers isn't something that should just be shoved under the rug. If he'd have advanced only another 20 miles and hit Moscow, he would have likely won the war.

I would attribute Germany's economic success to his finance minister (I know there was Schacht(?) and Goering, but the latter turned it into a short term war economy rather than long term stability plans).

...but Hitler certainly knew how to garner support and rile up a crowd, I'll give him that.
Kind of makes you wonder how different things would be if Germany won that war.

SIEG HEIL!

BaconShelf · January 23, 2015, 08:41:58 AM

Quote from: SuperIrish on January 23, 2015, 07:38:33 AM

Quote from: Bacon's Shelf on January 23, 2015, 05:01:03 AM
Quote from: Dustin' on January 22, 2015, 05:31:08 PM
Hitler, because his actions ultimately led to a better world than we'd have without WWII.

inb4 angsty teens get angsty because we all don't share the same opinion

The fact that he brought a country back from economic ruin to being one of the world's superpowers isn't something that should just be shoved under the rug. If he'd have advanced only another 20 miles and hit Moscow, he would have likely won the war.

I would attribute Germany's economic success to his finance minister (I know there was Schacht(?) and Goering, but the latter turned it into a short term war economy rather than long term stability plans).

...but Hitler certainly knew how to garner support and rile up a crowd, I'll give him that.

I don't know much about the others, we mainly did about Hitler's rise to power in history.

Turkey · January 23, 2015, 08:49:13 AM

I've been thinking on this for a few days, and I can't really come up with anything. I admire Ayn Rand because I think she's a very good writer (she has archetypes for characters, but they're just more pronounced than some other authors) and has an impressive attention to technical and industrial detail. And Orson Scott Card is one of my favorite authors, despite being a mormon, with all the pseudo-homophobic beliefs that come with that.

Super Irish · January 23, 2015, 09:31:05 AM

Quote from: Bacon's Shelf on January 23, 2015, 08:41:58 AM

Quote from: SuperIrish on January 23, 2015, 07:38:33 AM
Quote from: Bacon's Shelf on January 23, 2015, 05:01:03 AM
Quote from: Dustin' on January 22, 2015, 05:31:08 PM
Hitler, because his actions ultimately led to a better world than we'd have without WWII.

inb4 angsty teens get angsty because we all don't share the same opinion

The fact that he brought a country back from economic ruin to being one of the world's superpowers isn't something that should just be shoved under the rug. If he'd have advanced only another 20 miles and hit Moscow, he would have likely won the war.

I would attribute Germany's economic success to his finance minister (I know there was Schacht(?) and Goering, but the latter turned it into a short term war economy rather than long term stability plans).

...but Hitler certainly knew how to garner support and rile up a crowd, I'll give him that.

I don't know much about the others, we mainly did about Hitler's rise to power in history.

Did you do Nazi Germany for AS/A Level History? It goes into a bit more detail about life in Germany prior to and after his rise.

Schacht wasn't actually from the Nazi Party, but he was kept on because of his economic strategy was getting Germany out of the dirt, and reduced the Versailles repayments through Dawes and Young Plans (don't know much about them exactly, just that they reduced the repayments so Germany could concentrate on other things). He quit after 4 years, either out of stress or the fact he didn't like working for the Nazi Party, and then Goering took charge in '36 with his "4 year plan" to ramp up Germany's self sufficiency in preparation for war. I think he was still in charge of it by the 40's, as I recall at some point him stating Germany was now in a "war economy" - as in, everything went to the state, enjoy yer rations, and deal with it.

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BaconShelf · January 23, 2015, 11:51:35 AM

Quote from: SuperIrish on January 23, 2015, 09:31:05 AM

Quote from: Bacon's Shelf on January 23, 2015, 08:41:58 AM
Quote from: SuperIrish on January 23, 2015, 07:38:33 AM
Quote from: Bacon's Shelf on January 23, 2015, 05:01:03 AM
Quote from: Dustin' on January 22, 2015, 05:31:08 PM
Hitler, because his actions ultimately led to a better world than we'd have without WWII.

inb4 angsty teens get angsty because we all don't share the same opinion

The fact that he brought a country back from economic ruin to being one of the world's superpowers isn't something that should just be shoved under the rug. If he'd have advanced only another 20 miles and hit Moscow, he would have likely won the war.

I would attribute Germany's economic success to his finance minister (I know there was Schacht(?) and Goering, but the latter turned it into a short term war economy rather than long term stability plans).

...but Hitler certainly knew how to garner support and rile up a crowd, I'll give him that.

I don't know much about the others, we mainly did about Hitler's rise to power in history.
Did you do Nazi Germany for AS/A Level History? It goes into a bit more detail about life in Germany prior to and after his rise.

Schacht wasn't actually from the Nazi Party, but he was kept on because of his economic strategy was getting Germany out of the dirt, and reduced the Versailles repayments through Dawes and Young Plans (don't know much about them exactly, just that they reduced the repayments so Germany could concentrate on other things). He quit after 4 years, either out of stress or the fact he didn't like working for the Nazi Party, and then Goering took charge in '36 with his "4 year plan" to ramp up Germany's self sufficiency in preparation for war. I think he was still in charge of it by the 40's, as I recall at some point him stating Germany was now in a "war economy" - as in, everything went to the state, enjoy yer rations, and deal with it.

Only did GCSE. Didn't get the required grade (B) to get into A level, so I chose chemistry instead.

More Than Mortal · January 23, 2015, 12:09:57 PM

The amount of people saying Hitler in this thread. . .

Statefarm · January 23, 2015, 01:07:34 PM

Rockefeller

Robber Baron my ass.

Lemy the Lizerd · January 23, 2015, 01:11:10 PM

Che Guevera

Erwin Rommel

Jesse Ventura

Lemy the Lizerd · January 23, 2015, 01:11:40 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 23, 2015, 12:09:57 PM

The amount of people saying Hitler in this thread. . .

>memes
>in serious

Naru · January 23, 2015, 01:20:27 PM

We need more people like Hitler to help out economies

More Than Mortal · January 23, 2015, 01:50:43 PM

Quote from: Naru (っ◕‿◕)っ on January 23, 2015, 01:20:27 PM

We need more people like Hitler to help out economies

;_;