#MiloAtCali canceled - Violent Rioting

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There's several videos of people speaking to a crowd before the rioting took place. Despite the fact that I disagreed with them, it didn't really bother me that much since they weren't saying anything other than their beliefs which wasn't anything harmful. But after a while the above video happened and then it got out of hand.

I'm really disappointed in the University's response to cancel Milo's speech over this. It's giving the non-peaceful rioters a sense of accomplishment and giving them the idea that they can suppress dissenting views through intimidation, which is ironically what they were advocating against in the speeches before. I don't really agree with Milo other than that one video where he BTFO someone trying to attack his anonymous supporters with Ad Hominems but if his views are so harmful and wrong it should be especially vulnerable to criticism in a debate and easy to defeat.

This riot didn't accomplish anything towards Milo, it only strengthened his resolve and did property damage to their own campus.


 
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While I don't condone the protest turning violent and damaging, I also don't agree with Milo being invited to UC Berkley or any other university.


 
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A scheduled speech by controversial Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos at the University of California, Berkeley led to violent protests that caused the event to be called off, the university said.

The university said fires were set, including one caused by a firebomb that ignited a generator-powered spotlight, and commercial-grade fireworks were thrown at police. NBC Bay Area showed a group of people grab a metal barricade and smash it against a door.

"The violence was instigated by a group of about 150 masked agitators who came onto campus and interrupted an otherwise non-violent protest," UC Berkeley said in a statement. Some people were attacked and police treated six people for injuries, the university said.

Yiannopoulos said on Facebook that he was evacuated and blamed "violent left-wing protesters."

The university said the event was called off at around 6 p.m. local time "amid violence, destruction of property and out of concern for public safety," and estimated 1,500 people were outside the venue.

UC Berkeley police said multiple dispersal orders were given for the protest and people were told to leave campus or avoid the area. A campus lockdown was declared. A witness said a large crowd at Sproul Plaza yelled "No Trump, no Milo" and police used a megaphone to announce the event was called off.

"We condemn in the strongest possible terms the violence and unlawful behavior that was on display and deeply regret that those tactics will now overshadow the efforts to engage in legitimate and lawful protest against the performer's presence and perspectives," UC Berkeley said in a statement.

Yiannopoulos' critics say he has a history of making offensive comments related to race and religion. He made headlines earlier this year after he was banned from Twitter following online harassment of "Ghostbusters" star Leslie Jones.

Berkeley announced on Twitter at around 6:20 p.m. local time (9:30 p.m. ET) that the event was canceled. Marchers moved off campus, with some chanting "open borders for us all, no bans no walls," according to NBC Bay Area.

At around 10 p.m. local time, campus officials lifted a "shelter in place" order issued during the height of the protests and said routine campus business and classes would be held as normal on Thursday, the university said.

"The Left is absolutely terrified of free speech and will do literally anything to shut it down," Yiannopoulos said on Facebook after the Berkeley event was canceled.

UC Berkeley Police Chief Margo Bennett said Wednesday night she wasn't aware of any arrests by the department. Officers used pepper balls and marking paint balls but no tear gas was used. "I believe our officers exercised tremendous restraint," she said.

It's the second time a planned event featuring Yiannopoulos was canceled due to protests. A Republican college group called off an event at UC Davis on Jan. 14 amid protests.

Berkeley protest organizer Ronald Cruz earlier told NBC Bay Area that demonstrations would be held to oppose what he characterized as hateful rhetoric.

"He's a neo-fascist who has notoriously fostered a lynch mob mentality in his audiences," Cruz told the station.

UC Berkeley said in a statement after the event was canceled that extra officers were deployed and "Multiple methods of crowd control were in place."

"Ultimately, and unfortunately, however, it was simply impossible to maintain order given the level of threat, disruption and violence," the college said.

Berkeley College Republicans said before the protests that a "groupthink phenomenon" has taken hold at the California university that silences conservative speech, and while it doesn't agree with everything Yiannopoulos has said or done "we saw the chance to host Milo as an opportunity that was too good to pass up."

"He is somebody who stands up for those who are too afraid or intimidated to speak out on campus, and he voraciously defends speech from all sides of the political spectrum," the group said in a statement earlier.

After the violence, the group said in a statement: "The Free Speech Movement is dead. Today, the Berkeley College Republicans' constitutional right to free speech was silenced by criminals and thugs seeking to cancel Milo Yiannopoulos' tour."

University officials had rejected prior calls to cancel the event, citing free speech.

"We regret that the threats and unlawful actions of a few have interfered with the exercise of First Amendment rights on a campus that is proud of its history and legacy as home of the Free Speech Movement," the university said.

Hundreds of peaceful protesters demonstrated for hours before the event, some with signs that read "Hate Speech Is Not Free Speech," The Associated Press reported.

President Trump on Thursday morning, tweeted about the event, and even threatened to take away funding from the school.

"If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view - NO FEDERAL FUNDS?" he posted.


 
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Is this any different than when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad spoke at a university? It's the best possible place to defeat his beliefs with facts and statistics. This only gives Milo the ammo to say the rioters were afraid of losing a debate or having to counter-argue despite the fact that if he is so wrong it should be easy to do. Not letting him speak is doing more harm than good.

While I don't condone the protest turning violent and damaging, I also don't agree with Milo being invited to UC Berkley or any other university.


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I hope somebody kills Milo


 
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Is this any different than when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad spoke at a university?  It's the best possible place to defeat his beliefs with facts and statistics. This only gives Milo the ammo to say the rioters were afraid of losing a debate or having to counter-argue despite the fact that if he is so wrong it should be easy to do. Not letting him speak is doing more harm than good.

I'd argue that it is, because Ahmadinejad was a international political figure, elected President of Iran, etc etc.

The problem with inviting people like Milo (or any polarizing figure from the far-left) is that these are not people are who looking for a debate, to have a civilized discussion. These are people who routinely engage in abhorrent attacks on people who disagree with their views, make little to no effort to actually have educational discussions, etc.

If a university wants to have educational opportunities for debates with the opposing side, there are plenty of conservatives (or liberals, if you go to a conservative school) that are willing to actually debate and have discussions with students that don't amount to spouting views with no basis in fact.

Milo is not one of those people - he's a grandstander who likes to say shitty things about people, and then whines when he's banned from social media accounts, has his speaking licenses at universities revoked, etc.
Last Edit: February 02, 2017, 12:12:34 PM by Alternative Facts


 
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Funny how they cant handle the trolling opinions of a coalburning faggot kike who claims to speak for a group of neo nazis.

What would their reaction be to this?
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Burn the whole campus down in protest?


 
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I hope somebody kills Milo

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The left riots because they want to take the first amendment away from a gay, legal immigrant.

What side is the left on again? Hypocrites. 


 
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Didn't know burning down a Wells Fargo bank is a form of "criticism". Learn something new every day.


 
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Didn't know burning down a Wells Fargo bank is a form of "criticism". Learn something new every day.

I'm glad that's the message you took, and certainly not the message that Milo's free speech isn't being violated ::)


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I don't know Icy, I just think it'd be easy to tear him apart if all he can do is say shitty rhetoric without facts.

Milo is not one of those people - he's a grandstander who likes to say shitty things about people, and then whines when he's banned from social media accounts, has his speaking licenses at universities revoked, etc.


 
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I don't know Icy, I just think it'd be easy to tear him apart if all he can do is say shitty rhetoric without facts.

Milo is not one of those people - he's a grandstander who likes to say shitty things about people, and then whines when he's banned from social media accounts, has his speaking licenses at universities revoked, etc.

It really isn't. Look at how it works with PSU.


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Didn't know burning down a Wells Fargo bank is a form of "criticism". Learn something new every day.

I'm glad that's the message you took, and certainly not the message that Milo's free speech isn't being violated ::)

Its not? People literally wanted to riot to keep him from speaking. It was planned days in advance on twitter and other social media.

Kind of sounds like suppressing his right to speak to me.


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Didn't know burning down a Wells Fargo bank is a form of "criticism". Learn something new every day.

I'm glad that's the message you took, and certainly not the message that Milo's free speech isn't being violated ::)

Its not? People literally wanted to riot to keep him from speaking. It was planned days in advance on twitter and other social media.

Kind of sounds like suppressing his right to speak to me.

I wasn't aware that the government was protesting Milo and keeping him from speaking.

They aren't? Then it isn't a freedom of speech violation.


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Yeah but PSU isn't speaking at a university with hundreds if not thousands of people critiquing what he's saying.

It really isn't. Look at how it works with PSU.


 
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Yeah but PSU isn't speaking at a university with hundreds if not thousands of people critiquing what he's saying.

It really isn't. Look at how it works with PSU.

It doesn't matter how many people are there - the rhetorical devices and actions are still the same. Trying to debate Milo is the same as us trying to debate PSU - it just turns into yelling.

I'd say the same thing about a far-left person speaking - they are not people who's opinions need to be propagated and heard as credible.


 
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Yeah but PSU isn't speaking at a university with hundreds if not thousands of people critiquing what he's saying.

It really isn't. Look at how it works with PSU.

The thing is Milo won't debate anyone who is competent. He just picks on the lowest common denominator and people who aren't there to defend themselves.


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Yawn, If this happened to Bill Maher at UC Berkeley you would be shitting bricks. All cool. We all see the bias.


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Are people really victim blaming Milo for the riot? smh not very progressive


 
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Are people really victim blaming Milo for the riot? smh not very progressive

No one is.


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Are people really victim blaming Milo for the riot? smh not very progressive

No one is.
Of course not, he just shouldn't be invited to schools because he polarizing.


 
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Are people really victim blaming Milo for the riot? smh not very progressive

No one is.
Of course not, he just shouldn't be invited to schools because he polarizing.
The same way a far-left anarchist shouldn't be invited to universities to be touted as representing the left. I'd denounce that the same way I denounce Milo speaking at universities and giving his factually inaccurate views a platform and voice.


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Protests were autismal but there's nothing to really be gained from a Milo ((event)) intellectually. He just spouts the same old tiresome jingoistic rhetoric with a "comedic" twist. He's a professional prankster at this point, and anyone that thinks he's there to advance the discourse doesn't understand what a discussion actually involves.

A better conservative would be Larry Elder or Douglas Murray.