http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/drama_in_burns_ends_with_quiet.html

Hang for treason!

If you're going to lose control of a controlled burn then you should be held liable for all damages and potential criminal charges associated with that act.

If you're going to lose control of a controlled burn then you should be held liable for all damages and potential criminal charges associated with that act.

Yeah that's true, and I imagine they would have been willing to pay those fines. But charged with arson and terrorism, and thrown in jail for years? No way.

kill them

if they were black or muslim the cops would have shot them already

This country was founded by seditionists training weapons on government forces.

The country was also strengthened by what has essentially been a history of imperial domination in everything but name, but we won't hear the faggots occupying federal buildings admit that, will we?

There's a difference between revolution, and threatening to kill cops because you don't like a conviction. It's well-known among political scientists that non-violent movements that face State opposition are more successful than violent ones; not a single one that has garnered the support of 3pc of the population has failed.

But no, these fucking morons decide to go and act like terrorists because MUH LIBERTAHS. It would be hypocritical of me to not hope these fucks get shot, just as I'd hope any Muslim fundamentalist doing the same would also be shot. Fuck these lunatics.

EDIT: No, the U.S. wasn't founded by seditionists fighting off teh ebul gubment. It was founded by property-owners who didn't want to pay tax, and had the foresight to copy the inclusive institutions of the government they wanted to fight and maintain a standing army.

Quote from: Kupoop on January 03, 2016, 11:30:19 PM

if they were black or muslim the cops would have shot them already

More than likely at least one is black

McNig is a tripfag on /k/ who is associated with the Oathkeeper and Bundy crowd.

YouTube

It's probably safe to assume he's involved here.

I don't mean white-acting black dudes.

Quote from: M8A-ORD on January 03, 2016, 11:49:12 PM

Use the institutions democratic societies offer you,

These institutions are useless for those who are in the ideological minority. This is the core problem with democracy. It only offers self-determination for the groups with the greatest numbers.

The good thing about the rule of law combined with democracy is that it disallows men from being the judges of their own cause. Every ideologue considers their crusade to be morally upright, and these guys lost when they put their cattle on land they did not own without paying the proper fees and then trained their weapons on cops back in '93. Was the conviction right? No. But having a standoff with the police and threatening to be violent is not the correct solution.

And puts who in the role of the judge? The voting populace? Majoritarian morality is garbage.

Uh, duh.

That's why the rule of law is not majoritarian. Western countries have independent judiciaries for a reason.

There is a time to work with the system, and there's a time to defy it.

I've already agreed with this; you're just ignoring what I've actually said at this point.

or appointed by politicians who are elected by voters

You know this is pretty irrelevant for most positions besides Supreme Court appointments, right? The law is the law. The problem is that we saw a bad law in action, as is bound to happen. Funnily enough, threatening to kill federal agents and taking federal land is not an effective method of changing the law.

Cough cough.