Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge

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These guys are idiots. The same thing happened from last year or so with the SAME FAMILY from Nevada coming to help fuel the flames.

"Our gubbermint is oppressing us because our fire we started spread to their land for property damage".

Like, why?


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If you're going to lose control of a controlled burn then you should be held liable for all damages and potential criminal charges associated with that act.


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If you're going to lose control of a controlled burn then you should be held liable for all damages and potential criminal charges associated with that act.

Yeah that's true, and I imagine they would have been willing to pay those fines. But charged with arson and terrorism, and thrown in jail for years? No way.


 
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Well shit, I thought it was just arson charges.

That's ten kinds of fucked up then. brb, stealing brother's SKS and driving to Oregon


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I get why they'd be pissed over the conviction, but these people became seditionists the day they trained weapons on cops because they wanted their bumfuck cows to be able to graze on federal land. Occupying a federal building, even for a wildlife refuge, and not identifying whether they are armed, saying they will use violence against the police etc. makes them criminals any way you look at it.
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if they were black or muslim the cops would have shot them already


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
This country was founded by seditionists training weapons on government forces.
The country was also strengthened by what has essentially been a history of imperial domination in everything but name, but we won't hear the faggots occupying federal buildings admit that, will we?

There's a difference between revolution, and threatening to kill cops because you don't like a conviction. It's well-known among political scientists that non-violent movements that face State opposition are more successful than violent ones; not a single one that has garnered the support of 3pc of the population has failed.

But no, these fucking morons decide to go and act like terrorists because MUH LIBERTAHS. It would be hypocritical of me to not hope these fucks get shot, just as I'd hope any Muslim fundamentalist doing the same would also be shot. Fuck these lunatics.

EDIT: No, the U.S. wasn't founded by seditionists fighting off teh ebul gubment. It was founded by property-owners who didn't want to pay tax, and had the foresight to copy the inclusive institutions of the government they wanted to fight and maintain a standing army.
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if they were black or muslim the cops would have shot them already
More than likely at least one is black

McNig is a tripfag on /k/ who is associated with the Oathkeeper and Bundy crowd.
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It's probably safe to assume he's involved here.
I don't mean white-acting black dudes.


 
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if they were black or muslim the cops would have shot them already
More than likely at least one is black

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It's probably safe to assume he's involved here.
I don't mean civilised black dudes.
FTFY.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Overcentralized authority is a problem and defiant communities are the solution.
Why are you choosing to paint me as some quasi-Nazi who loves State over-reach?

Because then you have to ignore that I mentioned the convenient fact that non-violent movements in the face of State opposition are statistically much more successful.

And then you look like an ideologue only interested in pushing his idyllic narrative of the Puritan grassroots, defying the monolithic and corrupt government who made a bad conviction and is currently--God forbid--trying to get back federal property from potentially armed and violent protesters.

If you want to change something, don't shoot cops. Use the institutions democratic societies offer you, or do something that doesn't involve a SWAT team rightfully riddling you with hollow points.


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if they were black or muslim the cops would have shot them already
More than likely at least one is black

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It's probably safe to assume he's involved here.
I don't mean civilised black dudes.
FTFY.
You're a bad influence, but yeah pretty much.


 
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Use the institutions democratic societies offer you,
These institutions are useless for those who are in the ideological minority. This is the core problem with democracy. It only offers self-determination for the groups with the greatest numbers.
The good thing about the rule of law combined with democracy is that it disallows men from being the judges of their own cause. Every ideologue considers their crusade to be morally upright, and these guys lost when they put their cattle on land they did not own without paying the proper fees and then trained their weapons on cops back in '93. Was the conviction right? No. But having a standoff with the police and threatening to be violent is not the correct solution.


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And puts who in the role of the judge? The voting populace? Majoritarian morality is garbage.
Uh, duh.

That's why the rule of law is not majoritarian. Western countries have independent judiciaries for a reason.

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There is a time to work with the system, and there's a time to defy it.
I've already agreed with this; you're just ignoring what I've actually said at this point.


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or appointed by politicians who are elected by voters
You know this is pretty irrelevant for most positions besides Supreme Court appointments, right? The law is the law. The problem is that we saw a bad law in action, as is bound to happen. Funnily enough, threatening to kill federal agents and taking federal land is not an effective method of changing the law.

Cough cough.


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