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this entire situation is just proof of how hellish this world is. its incredible how jaded some of you are towards the loss of life... no matter how it really went down, its awful that anyone died. have some fucking respect..
Quote from: Statefarm on November 25, 2014, 09:41:27 AMQuote from: Kinder on November 25, 2014, 08:07:15 AMQuote from: Nick McIntyre on November 24, 2014, 11:00:34 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 24, 2014, 10:56:26 PMPhotos have been released of the Officer, in the hospital with injuires, following the shooting.... Injuries?Wait, I thought he said he had to have orbital socket surgery? Oh wait, that was Fox News reporting an anonymous X-Ray of a skull. And circulating pictures of a beat-up motorcyclist who died recently.Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 24, 2014, 10:55:31 PMQuote from: E̲n̲ga̲ge̲d̲T̲u̲r̲k̲e̲y on November 24, 2014, 10:52:33 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 24, 2014, 10:35:32 PMQuote from: Nick McIntyre on November 24, 2014, 10:12:58 PM And yes, Brown was murdered by the cop. Don't know how emptying a clip into an unarmed person isn't fucking overkill.Because a single bullet does not guarantee death or incapacitation of the target.Just curious, if one bullet had incapacitated him and the second killed him (hypothetically), how does a few more bullets in quick succession (i.e., not deliberately firing into a dead body) change this from self defense into murder?Well, if it's not deliberately firing into a dead body, then there'd be no reason at all to think it would change anything. Nick just seemed confused as to why firing multiple rounds isn't excessive force once the officer is perceived to be in danger and has escalated the situation to the use of deadly force. Probably because I'm a pacifist and believe in incapacitating someone/keeping them down over killing.Though if you kept coming at me I'd eventually have to make a killshot >.> Anyways I haven't seen the updated autopsies since this thing first exploded, so I am not sure if he was still shot in the head or not.This is the image that was used in court showing where the kid was shot. As you notice, all the entry wounds are located on the front of the body. One of the biggest claims was that the kid had his hands up yet the autopsy proves the oppositeFirst off, the way the bullet wounds are on the arm indicate his arms where down and not raised as if he was surrendering. This also means that he most likely had a damaged arm and couldn't raise it, defeating the hands up claimSecondly, the headshots show that the kid was in a stance where he was about to charge against the officer defending himselfLooks more like his arm was up, then the officer shot, hit the trigger multiple times, and the bullets sprayed upward with the recoilwat?
Quote from: Kinder on November 25, 2014, 08:07:15 AMQuote from: Nick McIntyre on November 24, 2014, 11:00:34 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 24, 2014, 10:56:26 PMPhotos have been released of the Officer, in the hospital with injuires, following the shooting.... Injuries?Wait, I thought he said he had to have orbital socket surgery? Oh wait, that was Fox News reporting an anonymous X-Ray of a skull. And circulating pictures of a beat-up motorcyclist who died recently.Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 24, 2014, 10:55:31 PMQuote from: E̲n̲ga̲ge̲d̲T̲u̲r̲k̲e̲y on November 24, 2014, 10:52:33 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 24, 2014, 10:35:32 PMQuote from: Nick McIntyre on November 24, 2014, 10:12:58 PM And yes, Brown was murdered by the cop. Don't know how emptying a clip into an unarmed person isn't fucking overkill.Because a single bullet does not guarantee death or incapacitation of the target.Just curious, if one bullet had incapacitated him and the second killed him (hypothetically), how does a few more bullets in quick succession (i.e., not deliberately firing into a dead body) change this from self defense into murder?Well, if it's not deliberately firing into a dead body, then there'd be no reason at all to think it would change anything. Nick just seemed confused as to why firing multiple rounds isn't excessive force once the officer is perceived to be in danger and has escalated the situation to the use of deadly force. Probably because I'm a pacifist and believe in incapacitating someone/keeping them down over killing.Though if you kept coming at me I'd eventually have to make a killshot >.> Anyways I haven't seen the updated autopsies since this thing first exploded, so I am not sure if he was still shot in the head or not.This is the image that was used in court showing where the kid was shot. As you notice, all the entry wounds are located on the front of the body. One of the biggest claims was that the kid had his hands up yet the autopsy proves the oppositeFirst off, the way the bullet wounds are on the arm indicate his arms where down and not raised as if he was surrendering. This also means that he most likely had a damaged arm and couldn't raise it, defeating the hands up claimSecondly, the headshots show that the kid was in a stance where he was about to charge against the officer defending himselfLooks more like his arm was up, then the officer shot, hit the trigger multiple times, and the bullets sprayed upward with the recoil
Quote from: Nick McIntyre on November 24, 2014, 11:00:34 PMQuote from: IcyWind on November 24, 2014, 10:56:26 PMPhotos have been released of the Officer, in the hospital with injuires, following the shooting.... Injuries?Wait, I thought he said he had to have orbital socket surgery? Oh wait, that was Fox News reporting an anonymous X-Ray of a skull. And circulating pictures of a beat-up motorcyclist who died recently.Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 24, 2014, 10:55:31 PMQuote from: E̲n̲ga̲ge̲d̲T̲u̲r̲k̲e̲y on November 24, 2014, 10:52:33 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 24, 2014, 10:35:32 PMQuote from: Nick McIntyre on November 24, 2014, 10:12:58 PM And yes, Brown was murdered by the cop. Don't know how emptying a clip into an unarmed person isn't fucking overkill.Because a single bullet does not guarantee death or incapacitation of the target.Just curious, if one bullet had incapacitated him and the second killed him (hypothetically), how does a few more bullets in quick succession (i.e., not deliberately firing into a dead body) change this from self defense into murder?Well, if it's not deliberately firing into a dead body, then there'd be no reason at all to think it would change anything. Nick just seemed confused as to why firing multiple rounds isn't excessive force once the officer is perceived to be in danger and has escalated the situation to the use of deadly force. Probably because I'm a pacifist and believe in incapacitating someone/keeping them down over killing.Though if you kept coming at me I'd eventually have to make a killshot >.> Anyways I haven't seen the updated autopsies since this thing first exploded, so I am not sure if he was still shot in the head or not.This is the image that was used in court showing where the kid was shot. As you notice, all the entry wounds are located on the front of the body. One of the biggest claims was that the kid had his hands up yet the autopsy proves the oppositeFirst off, the way the bullet wounds are on the arm indicate his arms where down and not raised as if he was surrendering. This also means that he most likely had a damaged arm and couldn't raise it, defeating the hands up claimSecondly, the headshots show that the kid was in a stance where he was about to charge against the officer defending himself
Quote from: IcyWind on November 24, 2014, 10:56:26 PMPhotos have been released of the Officer, in the hospital with injuires, following the shooting.... Injuries?Wait, I thought he said he had to have orbital socket surgery? Oh wait, that was Fox News reporting an anonymous X-Ray of a skull. And circulating pictures of a beat-up motorcyclist who died recently.Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 24, 2014, 10:55:31 PMQuote from: E̲n̲ga̲ge̲d̲T̲u̲r̲k̲e̲y on November 24, 2014, 10:52:33 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 24, 2014, 10:35:32 PMQuote from: Nick McIntyre on November 24, 2014, 10:12:58 PM And yes, Brown was murdered by the cop. Don't know how emptying a clip into an unarmed person isn't fucking overkill.Because a single bullet does not guarantee death or incapacitation of the target.Just curious, if one bullet had incapacitated him and the second killed him (hypothetically), how does a few more bullets in quick succession (i.e., not deliberately firing into a dead body) change this from self defense into murder?Well, if it's not deliberately firing into a dead body, then there'd be no reason at all to think it would change anything. Nick just seemed confused as to why firing multiple rounds isn't excessive force once the officer is perceived to be in danger and has escalated the situation to the use of deadly force. Probably because I'm a pacifist and believe in incapacitating someone/keeping them down over killing.Though if you kept coming at me I'd eventually have to make a killshot >.> Anyways I haven't seen the updated autopsies since this thing first exploded, so I am not sure if he was still shot in the head or not.
Photos have been released of the Officer, in the hospital with injuires, following the shooting.... Injuries?
Quote from: E̲n̲ga̲ge̲d̲T̲u̲r̲k̲e̲y on November 24, 2014, 10:52:33 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 24, 2014, 10:35:32 PMQuote from: Nick McIntyre on November 24, 2014, 10:12:58 PM And yes, Brown was murdered by the cop. Don't know how emptying a clip into an unarmed person isn't fucking overkill.Because a single bullet does not guarantee death or incapacitation of the target.Just curious, if one bullet had incapacitated him and the second killed him (hypothetically), how does a few more bullets in quick succession (i.e., not deliberately firing into a dead body) change this from self defense into murder?Well, if it's not deliberately firing into a dead body, then there'd be no reason at all to think it would change anything. Nick just seemed confused as to why firing multiple rounds isn't excessive force once the officer is perceived to be in danger and has escalated the situation to the use of deadly force.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 24, 2014, 10:35:32 PMQuote from: Nick McIntyre on November 24, 2014, 10:12:58 PM And yes, Brown was murdered by the cop. Don't know how emptying a clip into an unarmed person isn't fucking overkill.Because a single bullet does not guarantee death or incapacitation of the target.Just curious, if one bullet had incapacitated him and the second killed him (hypothetically), how does a few more bullets in quick succession (i.e., not deliberately firing into a dead body) change this from self defense into murder?
Quote from: Nick McIntyre on November 24, 2014, 10:12:58 PM And yes, Brown was murdered by the cop. Don't know how emptying a clip into an unarmed person isn't fucking overkill.Because a single bullet does not guarantee death or incapacitation of the target.
And yes, Brown was murdered by the cop. Don't know how emptying a clip into an unarmed person isn't fucking overkill.
Quote from: Azumarill on November 25, 2014, 11:38:47 AMthis entire situation is just proof of how hellish this world is. its incredible how jaded some of you are towards the loss of life... no matter how it really went down, its awful that anyone died. have some fucking respect..I have no sympathy for black people thugs.
Quote from: Azumarill on November 25, 2014, 11:44:16 AMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 25, 2014, 11:41:34 AMQuote from: Azumarill on November 25, 2014, 11:38:47 AMthis entire situation is just proof of how hellish this world is. its incredible how jaded some of you are towards the loss of life... no matter how it really went down, its awful that anyone died. have some fucking respect..I have no sympathy for black people thugs.id hit you if i could.I think he's just being sarcastic, mocking people who use the word "thug" as a substitute for "nigger".
Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 25, 2014, 11:41:34 AMQuote from: Azumarill on November 25, 2014, 11:38:47 AMthis entire situation is just proof of how hellish this world is. its incredible how jaded some of you are towards the loss of life... no matter how it really went down, its awful that anyone died. have some fucking respect..I have no sympathy for black people thugs.id hit you if i could.
Quote from: challengerX on November 25, 2014, 12:34:39 PMQuote from: Azumarill on November 25, 2014, 11:44:16 AMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 25, 2014, 11:41:34 AMQuote from: Azumarill on November 25, 2014, 11:38:47 AMthis entire situation is just proof of how hellish this world is. its incredible how jaded some of you are towards the loss of life... no matter how it really went down, its awful that anyone died. have some fucking respect..I have no sympathy for black people thugs.id hit you if i could.I think he's just being sarcastic, mocking people who use the word "thug" as a substitute for "nigger".people do that?
Wait. People actually care about this?
Dude got attacked and fatally shot a guy in self defense. Did he instigate the conflict? Maybe, but that doesn't invalidate the right to defend himself. Yeah it sucks that this all happened and it's very tragic, but nobody should be surprised by this.In recent news, a cop shot a 12 year old kid after he reached for a lifelike toy gun in his waistband after being told to comply.
Quote from: E̲n̲ga̲ge̲d̲T̲u̲r̲k̲e̲y on November 24, 2014, 09:00:24 PMDude got attacked and fatally shot a guy in self defense. Did he instigate the conflict? Maybe, but that doesn't invalidate the right to defend himself. Yeah it sucks that this all happened and it's very tragic, but nobody should be surprised by this.In recent news, a cop shot a 12 year old kid after he reached for a lifelike toy gun in his waistband after being told to comply.Was the kid black?