Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) on Tuesday evening linked the House Select Committee on Benghazi with Hillary Clinton's dropping poll numbers. "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee," McCarthy said on Fox News's "Hannity." "What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she's untrustable," McCarthy continued. "But no one would have known any of that had happened had we not fought and made that happen," McCarthy said on Fox while making his pitch to become the next Speaker. Democrats on the committee have said the panel has run its course and have accused Republicans of making it a partisan vehicle to attack the former secretary of State. The ranking Democrat on the Benghazi panel responded to McCarthy's "stunning concession," saying it showed "the core Republican goal" in creating the panel was to hurt Clinton politically. "It is shameful that Republicans have used this tragedy and the deaths of our fellow Americans for political gain," Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) said in a statement Wednesday, noting that Congress has spent $4.5 million on the committee. "In boasting of how the Select Committee had driven down the poll numbers of Secretary Hillary Clinton, McCarthy laid bare the abusive purpose of this taxpayer funded committee," another Democrat on the panel, Rep. Adam Schiff (Calif.), said in a statement Wednesday. Schiff said that after 16 months and millions of dollars, the committee "has gained no new insights into the attacks in Benghazi" and reiterated calls for the panel to end. Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) has maintained that the committee is nonpartisan and essential for a "definitive accounting" of the 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya.
So, question - has this panel found anything of relevance on Benghazi? At all?
Quote from: spewky bewgie on September 30, 2015, 09:36:43 AMSo, question - has this panel found anything of relevance on Benghazi? At all?Quite a bit. Tens of thousands of emails and related documents, interviews of dozens of witnesses and survivors of the attack, and probably the most important
exposing Clinton's use of a personal email account when conducting state affairs and the subsequent publication of her attempt to cover up the information in the account by deleting swaths of emails and cherrypicking which to release publicly.
And this has turned up what, exactly?
It is not their role as the Benghazi committee to investigate Clinton's use of the private server
Quote from: spewky bewgie on September 30, 2015, 11:45:39 AMAnd this has turned up what, exactly? I'm not sure what you're asking. Access to more information allows them to have a more informed picture of what happen to learn about what happened and why. They're not specifically looking for wrongdoing; these committees occur after any major incident, to uncover as much information as possible.
QuoteIt is not their role as the Benghazi committee to investigate Clinton's use of the private server They're not. They were probably trying to get emails from the state department about the incident and discovered gaps that led to the knowledge that Clinton and her staff were deleting emails related to the attack en masse. The committee turned that information over to the FBI who are conducting the investigation under the charge of some other department of the government.
Then why is it that nearly every news post on the committees website has something to do with the email server, the State departments handling, etc?
Quote from: spewky bewgie on September 30, 2015, 11:59:46 AMThen why is it that nearly every news post on the committees website has something to do with the email server, the State departments handling, etc? Probably because that's the largest source of undisclosed information on the subject. If the State Department had released its emails to Congress (and the citizens of the country) as legally obligated, the investigation would probably be over. The only thing dragging out the process is the State Department's lack of transparency and unwillingness to cooperate.
Quote from: spewky bewgie on September 30, 2015, 09:36:43 AMSo, question - has this panel found anything of relevance on Benghazi? At all?Quite a bit. Tens of thousands of emails and related documents, interviews of dozens of witnesses and survivors of the attack, and probably the most important: exposing Clinton's use of a personal email account when conducting state affairs and the subsequent publication of her attempt to cover up the information in the account by deleting swaths of emails and cherrypicking which to release publicly. I really see nothing wrong with his praise of the committee. They exposed a pretty damn insidious pattern of behavior during Clinton's tenure related to Benghazi and helped inform Congress (and the public) of more details behind the attack.
Way to ignore the fact that the committee hasn't held a hearing in nine months.
All it's confirmed is that Hillary doesn't like State Department transparency rules, but that's a different outrage entirely. There has been zero evidence of any Benghazi misconduct on her part.
Quote from: spewky bewgie on September 30, 2015, 12:18:08 PMWay to ignore the fact that the committee hasn't held a hearing in nine months.Not sure what you want me to talk about. I'm not defending the committee; I don't know very much about them. You asked if they'd found anything, I explained what they did, then you criticized it as pointless, so I clarified its significance. It's not about being slow, it's about refusing to release information as required under the Freedom of Information Act. Frankly, liberals should be the ones spearheading this; it's usually the republicans claiming information should be kept private for various reasons. Quote from: Kupo on September 30, 2015, 12:23:22 PMAll it's confirmed is that Hillary doesn't like State Department transparency rules, but that's a different outrage entirely. There has been zero evidence of any Benghazi misconduct on her part.I don't think anyone from the committee has ever claimed the state department's misconduct resulted in the attack. The committee isn't disciplinary in nature as far as I'm aware. Its purpose is to collect information, with the State Department's refusal to release information being the primary source of delay.