This was just too great not to share.

Go nuts.

He had a fracking gun. Did it run threw his head to not be like "oh hey, I have a gun and being told to give it to some guy. Let me instead fire a few rounds at him."

I would personally never open carry for this reason.  It makes you a target.

So what of police? Everybody knows they carry a gun yet they are not robbed for them. The problem was the guy not thinking, not OCing. If he used common sense and fired his gun then he wouldn't have had it stolen

"but.....but guns are there to protect you"

Quote from: Kinder Skellington on October 10, 2014, 05:48:42 PM

He had a fracking gun. Did it run threw his head to not be like "oh hey, I have a gun and being told to give it to some guy. Let me instead fire a few rounds at him."

The assailant pulled his own gun on the victim, and then asked for the victim's gun. Or at least that's what I got from it; the guy didn't just hand it over to let the guy see it, he was being mugged and didn't use his gun to react. I assume because he didn't think he could do it without getting shot, you can argue that he had the gun in his freakin' hands at the time, but it sounds like he just was too shocked and/or too afraid that he'd die to use it.

Yeah, I know he was demanding it at gun point. But he had to hand it over for the guy to steal it so common sense would be to quickly face the barrel at the guy and just empty the mag on him

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on October 10, 2014, 06:03:31 PM

Quote from: Kinder Skellington on October 10, 2014, 05:48:42 PM

He had a fracking gun. Did it run threw his head to not be like "oh hey, I have a gun and being told to give it to some guy. Let me instead fire a few rounds at him."

The assailant pulled his own gun on the victim, and then asked for the victim's gun. Or at least that's what I got from it; the guy didn't just hand it over to let the guy see it, he was being mugged and didn't use his gun to react. I assume because he didn't think he could do it without getting shot, you can argue that he had the gun in his freakin' hands at the time, but it sounds like he just was too shocked and/or too afraid that he'd die to use it.

Yeah, I know he was demanding it at gun point. But he had to hand it over for the guy to steal it so common sense would be to quickly face the barrel at the guy and just empty the mag on him

With the guy having the gun already trained on you, assuming he's semi-competent, he can still shoot you as soon as he sees that you're making a sudden movement(or turning it to face him). While that might work well in a video game, life isn't always so kind.

And really, the victim really sounds like he wasn't the kind of guy that was prepared for this kind of thing. Yes, there are several key moments in the event where the victim could've turned it around(When the assailant pulled out his gun, when a guy wearing flipflops asks about your gun, etc.), but nothing can really prepare people for the real thing like this; and it sure doesn't help when you're lulled into a false sense of security by your gun at your side and a guy casually talking to you about guns.

if he pulled out his gun and aimed it at the robber in response and they both didint fire but just had a stand off and someone called the cops...

what do you think would happen?

Haha, cops are far less qualified to have firearms than citizens.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/02/21/disarming-the-myths-promoted-by-the-gun-control-lobby/2/

"law-abiding American citizens using guns in self-defense during 2003 shot and killed two and one-half times as many criminals as police did, and with fewer than one-fifth as many incidents as police where an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal (2% versus 11%)."

I was speaking of just this guy in the article.  He clearly wasn't very well trained at assessing the environment or disarming.

Who buys a .22 handgun?

People that want a gun, and think it looks cool. Or they can't afford 9mm somehow.

Quote from: Septy on October 10, 2014, 06:41:06 PM

Who buys a .22 handgun?

.22 is actually really good at a close range. It just tears shit up after it penetrates, making it very deadly

Deadly to what? A chicken?

Open carry is for fucking idiots.

Concealed carry is safer for EVERYONE.