Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 02:40:32 PMLaughing my ass off if you legitimately believe animal shelters use euthanasia when killing their animals.They probably just give them some fluoridated tap water, huh?
Laughing my ass off if you legitimately believe animal shelters use euthanasia when killing their animals.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on September 23, 2015, 02:46:29 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 02:40:32 PMLaughing my ass off if you legitimately believe animal shelters use euthanasia when killing their animals.They probably just give them some fluoridated tap water, huh?This is Serious. Ease up on the shitposting.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 02:47:08 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on September 23, 2015, 02:46:29 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 02:40:32 PMLaughing my ass off if you legitimately believe animal shelters use euthanasia when killing their animals.They probably just give them some fluoridated tap water, huh?This is Serious. Ease up on the shitposting.I'm simply responding to your posts with the degree of respect you've earned in your time here.
Also, there is fluoride in tap water. This is an undisputed fact. So trying to attack my character by bringing that up is idiotic.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 02:49:35 PMAlso, there is fluoride in tap water. This is an undisputed fact. So trying to attack my character by bringing that up is idiotic.I'm bringing it up because you're notoriously uninformed on almost every social/political issue you talk about on here (see: "Laughing my ass off if you legitimately believe animal shelters use euthanasia when killing their animals.")I guess they just bludgeon them to death with the nearest baseball bat, eh?
No, they paralyze them while introducing a poison to their body that kills them in 5-10 minutes. Just like how lethal injections in prisons are performed.
And I'm uninformed? You think that aspartame isn't harmful, for fucks sake.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 02:57:12 PMNo, they paralyze them while introducing a poison to their body that kills them in 5-10 minutes. Just like how lethal injections in prisons are performed. That's called 'euthanasia'. QuoteAnd I'm uninformed? You think that aspartame isn't harmful, for fucks sake.As does the overwhelming majority of scientific research. In fact, there isn't a single peer-reviewed study that indicates anything but massive doses of aspartame are unhealthy, doses so high you'd die from water intoxication far before you could manage it.
And no. Euthanasia is harmless. Lethal injections aren't.
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:04:46 PMAnd no. Euthanasia is harmless. Lethal injections aren't.You just confirmed you have no idea what you're talking about.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on September 23, 2015, 03:07:03 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 03:04:46 PMAnd no. Euthanasia is harmless. Lethal injections aren't.You just confirmed you have no idea what you're talking about.You just confirmed you have no fucking idea how people are actually executed. Euthanasia is expensive. The way that criminals are executed is simply introducing a paralytic and poison to the body. The poison is cheap and kills in 10 or so minutes, while the paralytic exists to stop the criminal from having convulsions. Seriously, do some research before you insinuate that all executions (especially animal executions) are done with a chemical as costly as euthanasia.
Regardless, I know for a fact that executions aren't painless. They don't use Euthasol for executions, then.
Sure, holding a puppy and blowing its brains out may be less scary, but shepherds have a very high adoption rate and since the guy was responsible for their birth (via not spaying his dog or trying to breed without knowing how), he really owed those puppies a bit more of a chance (and dignity) than being shot at 12 weeks old.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on September 23, 2015, 03:24:19 PMSure, holding a puppy and blowing its brains out may be less scary, but shepherds have a very high adoption rate and since the guy was responsible for their birth (via not spaying his dog or trying to breed without knowing how), he really owed those puppies a bit more of a chance (and dignity) than being shot at 12 weeks old.I think while we can say that this event is most definitely avoidable and it's his fault it wasn't avoided, I think we can also agree that the difference between putting those dogs in shelters and quickly ending their lives is minimal. Shelters have plenty of animals to be giving away already and now they won't have these few as burdens for whatever duration they would stay there. As for the puppies, they're dead, they can't know the difference. Dignity is just a concept designed to make things appear neater than they are (the only negative experience these pups had from being shot rather than injected is hearing the gunshot for the one in front of them) so humans don't feel as bad when they look at the scene. But any rational person can recognize that that is a purely emotional distinction and that the two method are effectively equal in terms of humanity.
all parties had virtually no negative experiences as a result of it.
He solved the problem in a way that isn't really objectionable
Just wondering if you missed the part where the puppies were going to die.
Why exactly does that matter outside of human response to it happening?
Sure a being naturally wants to live and death is obviously in opposition to that, but that want is not there to be dissatisfied if the agent is dead. There is no negative once something is dead, because death is only negative if something is alive to think that.
Also, there is fluoride in tap water. This is an undisputed fact.
so then how could it be unethical to murder a person who has no external value (such as a homeless person with no family)?
Quote from: Carsonogen on September 23, 2015, 02:49:35 PMAlso, there is fluoride in tap water.DUDE CHEMTRAILS LMAO
Also, there is fluoride in tap water.
So are we going to just sit by and let OP write "pupies"?
Can we stop arguing about the ethics of murdering puppies without a home, and instead focus on how the US military and Darpa should have already adopted these pups?
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on September 23, 2015, 06:48:00 PMCan we stop arguing about the ethics of murdering puppies without a home, and instead focus on how the US military and Darpa should have already adopted these pups?wat