Lockheed Martin thinks it can give the world unlimited clean energy in 20 years

 
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Remember back in the '50s, when official-sounding newsreels promised that we'd have new-kew-lur-powered cars by the '70s and no one would ever be unhappy? Probably not, since we've gotten a skewed sense of history from watching too many episodes of Futurama. Still, several decades behind schedule, the promise of clean and unlimited energy might finally be looming upon the horizon, thanks to Lockheed Martin. The defense behemoth believes that it might have a working prototype of its Compact Fusion Reactor in a decade, which might just save the world as we know it.

For those not in the know, nuclear power is great, but there are many reasons why we've never ditched coal and gas in favor of fission. For starters, there's risk of a meltdown, the process produces hard-to-dispose-of nuclear waste and throws out highly lethal radiation at all times. Fusion, by comparison, is a lot less dangerous, and could theoretically be shrunk down to the point where it could power an airplane that never needs to land in order to refuel.

A team at the company's Skunk Works, lead by Dr. Thomas McGuire, has cherry-picked elements from previous fusion experiments to build a magnetic containment chamber that's 90 percent smaller than previous devices. The reactor's small size means that it's possible to turn prototypes around in under a year, and McGuire believes that Lockheed Martin will be able to demonstrate true fusion energy by 2020. The system also promises to be able to plug into the existing gas turbine power infrastructure, which would instantly eliminate carbon emissions in the sector, and, even better, enhance "energy security," which is a euphemism for not buying coal and gas from your political enemies.


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I don't doubt their ability to make it possible. I just doubt the ability of the public and companies to accept it [or even allow it]

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I don't doubt their ability to make it possible. I just doubt the ability of the public and companies to accept it [or even allow it]
Technology always wins.

Looks like we'll get socialism sooner than I expected, if Lockheed is true to its word.


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Hmmm.

I like how it says how wrong the scientists of the 50's were wrong for expecting amazing technology in the near future, then going on to proclaim amazing technology will be available in the next 20 years.

Contradictory bits aside, nuclear fusion being commercially and widely available would be nice, though I hope they're focusing on reliability and safety over how big the reactors are for the time being. You know, walk before you fly and all that.

Only then can we have Concordes back, only fusion powered.


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"Leading scientists close to Nuclear Fusion! Expected to be implemented in 20 years!"


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If they do, then they will pretty much go down in history as the most important motherfuckers ever to walk the earth.

Nuclear Fusion will be world changing, we just have to hope that the fuckwits in charge of everything can refrain from destroying the world before then.


 
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I'm adding that onto the list alongside that thruster that produces thrust by bouncing microwaves around in a chamber and scientists don't know how the frack it functions considering it violates our currently known laws of physics.

It'll be a cold day in hell before either of these two things hit the market.
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Sounds like history repeating itself to me.

On a side note: It would still be hard to replace things such as cars, trains and planes instantly unless a government wanted to go into serious debt.


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For starters, there's risk of a meltdown, the process produces hard-to-dispose-of nuclear waste and throws out highly lethal radiation at all times. Fusion, by comparison, is a lot less dangerous

dat blatant misinformation propagated by the media tho


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For starters, there's risk of a meltdown, the process produces hard-to-dispose-of nuclear waste and throws out highly lethal radiation at all times. Fusion, by comparison, is a lot less dangerous

dat blatant misinformation propagated by the media tho
true dat modern nuclear plants are far safer than they used to be.


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For starters, there's risk of a meltdown, the process produces hard-to-dispose-of nuclear waste and throws out highly lethal radiation at all times. Fusion, by comparison, is a lot less dangerous

dat blatant misinformation propagated by the media tho
true dat modern nuclear plants are far safer than they used to be.
It's a shame we don't have any...


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For starters, there's risk of a meltdown, the process produces hard-to-dispose-of nuclear waste and throws out highly lethal radiation at all times. Fusion, by comparison, is a lot less dangerous

dat blatant misinformation propagated by the media tho
true dat modern nuclear plants are far safer than they used to be.
It's a shame we don't have any...
Yeah.


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For starters, there's risk of a meltdown, the process produces hard-to-dispose-of nuclear waste and throws out highly lethal radiation at all times. Fusion, by comparison, is a lot less dangerous

dat blatant misinformation propagated by the media tho
That's literally how fission works though. It's not this magical energy source with no drawbacks.

The drawbacks are minimal. Current reactors are very safe and reliable. Risk of a meltdown is basically zero (for perspective, the reactors in Fukushima were shitty and poorly regulated and it took a massive tsunami and earthquake to cause a meltdown). Nuclear waste isn't difficult to dispose of, and while the reactors do emit radiation, shielding is very easy (water alone blocks almost all of it) and there are zero cases of dangerous dosage of radiation in modern power plants.

You're right, nuclear power isn't magical. It's also not scary. You take a really heavy metal, you shoot a neutron at it so that it releases some of the metal's binding energy, you allow that energy to heat up some water, use that water to boil some other water, and then you let the steam drive a generator shaft. It's self-sustaining, has an abundant fuel source, and doesn't involve blowing up million-year-old algea. 


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For starters, there's risk of a meltdown, the process produces hard-to-dispose-of nuclear waste and throws out highly lethal radiation at all times. Fusion, by comparison, is a lot less dangerous

dat blatant misinformation propagated by the media tho
That's literally how fission works though. It's not this magical energy source with no drawbacks.

The drawbacks are minimal. Current reactors are very safe and reliable. Risk of a meltdown is basically zero (for perspective, the reactors in Fukushima were shitty and poorly regulated and it took a massive tsunami and earthquake to cause a meltdown). Nuclear waste isn't difficult to dispose of, and while the reactors do emit radiation, shielding is very easy (water alone blocks almost all of it) and there are zero cases of dangerous dosage of radiation in modern power plants.

You're right, nuclear power isn't magical. It's also not scary. You take a really heavy metal, you shoot a neutron at it so that it releases some of the metal's binding energy, you allow that energy to heat up some water, use that water to boil some other water, and then you let the steam drive a generator shaft. It's self-sustaining, has an abundant fuel source, and doesn't involve blowing up million-year-old algea.
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Or rather, nuclear waste is only easy to dispose of if done improperly, which the United States currently does, so yeah I guess I could give you that it's "easy" to dispose of.

Please do educate me, O Wise One, on the proper method of disposing of nuclear waste.

A caveat to your response is that there hasn't been an incident of theft, leakage, or loss of spent fuel rods in America in-transit to disposal since modern regulations (the past 30ish years) were implemented. It's also fairly simple to dispose of: encase it in steel and concrete, then bury it in the ground.
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2. What you said was just inherently wrong. There's countless nuclear waste spills across the country. Read up.
You're right, I misspoke. I meant to say "there hasn't been an incident of theft, leakage, or loss of spent fuel rods in America in-transit to disposal since modern regulations (the past 30ish years) were implemented." I was addressing a common fear that it's dangerous to truck nuclear fuel away from a power plant, or that it's susceptible to theft by terrorist or otherwise criminal organizations. I used a shorthand that normally works for the people I talk with about this that would understand what I meant, and I should have been more clear.
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3. I'm not an expert on nuclear physics, meaning there comes a point where I have to choose which source I'm going to listen to. In the sense that garbage incineration isn't actually an environmentally safe procedure as it's often claimed to be, the same generally goes for nuclear power. And seeing as all you've done is ramble about how safe it is without providing any sources to your information, and seeing part of your knowledge on nuclear power and nuclear waste is wrong, I can't simply take your word without knowing which organizations you get your information from.

What do you want a citation for? That spent fuel rods are encased in steel or concrete then buried? Okay, here you go, just pick one:

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=how%20is%20nuclear%20waste%20disposed%20of

I didn't read any of this on the internet; I don't have sources bookmarked for every statement I make.
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