I wasn't joking.I don't think circumcision is a problem, based on the fact that, well, it worked out okay for me.
Just because you don't see it as a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.
Quote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 05:59:37 PMJust because you don't see it as a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.No shit. Do not patronize me.Kindly demonstrate why it's a problem.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 05:58:16 PMI wasn't joking.I don't think circumcision is a problem, based on the fact that, well, it worked out okay for me.Dat anectodal evidence.
Quote from: Flee on December 03, 2014, 04:34:44 PMQuote from: Kupo on December 03, 2014, 04:30:29 PMDespite the overwhelming evidence that the medical benefits do exist, no one is denying their existence, but instead arguing that the benefits have been blown way out of proportion.Problem is that these medical benefits are virtually non-existant in a first world country with decent medical institutions, and that they do not always compare to the benefits that come with not circumcising a child.Besides, cutting off a body part to avoid unlikely problems that are usually easily treatable isn't very solid reasoning.Yes with the same logic we should start cutting off all women's breasts to reduce the chance of breast cancer.
Quote from: Kupo on December 03, 2014, 04:30:29 PMDespite the overwhelming evidence that the medical benefits do exist, no one is denying their existence, but instead arguing that the benefits have been blown way out of proportion.Problem is that these medical benefits are virtually non-existant in a first world country with decent medical institutions, and that they do not always compare to the benefits that come with not circumcising a child.Besides, cutting off a body part to avoid unlikely problems that are usually easily treatable isn't very solid reasoning.
Despite the overwhelming evidence that the medical benefits do exist, no one is denying their existence, but instead arguing that the benefits have been blown way out of proportion.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 06:00:56 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 05:59:37 PMJust because you don't see it as a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.No shit. Do not patronize me.Kindly demonstrate why it's a problem.Because it's a loss of sexual nerves
basically genital mutilation without consent
and it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight.
Quote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 04:37:44 PMQuote from: Flee on December 03, 2014, 04:34:44 PMQuote from: Kupo on December 03, 2014, 04:30:29 PMDespite the overwhelming evidence that the medical benefits do exist, no one is denying their existence, but instead arguing that the benefits have been blown way out of proportion.Problem is that these medical benefits are virtually non-existant in a first world country with decent medical institutions, and that they do not always compare to the benefits that come with not circumcising a child.Besides, cutting off a body part to avoid unlikely problems that are usually easily treatable isn't very solid reasoning.Yes with the same logic we should start cutting off all women's breasts to reduce the chance of breast cancer.Or removing the appendix to stop the chance of it bursting on us.
Quote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:03:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 06:00:56 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 05:59:37 PMJust because you don't see it as a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.No shit. Do not patronize me.Kindly demonstrate why it's a problem.Because it's a loss of sexual nerves, basically genital mutilation without consent, and it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight.I remember reading you lose upwards of 50,000 nerve endings when the foreskin is removed. Basically, slowly rub your finger across your palm, then do the same to the top of your hand. The former being normal, the latter being a circumcised penis.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 06:00:56 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 05:59:37 PMJust because you don't see it as a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.No shit. Do not patronize me.Kindly demonstrate why it's a problem.Because it's a loss of sexual nerves, basically genital mutilation without consent, and it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight.
Quote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:03:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 06:00:56 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 05:59:37 PMJust because you don't see it as a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.No shit. Do not patronize me.Kindly demonstrate why it's a problem.Because it's a loss of sexual nervesFewer nerves = less sensitivity. I'm okay with that. I don't want to get a stiffy from a soft spring breeze.Quotebasically genital mutilation without consentuntil you're 18, your parents are in charge of your medical choices Quoteand it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight.Yes, it's possible.
Because it's a loss of sexual nerves, basically genital mutilation without consent, and it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight.
Quote from: Mad Max on December 03, 2014, 06:05:35 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:03:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 06:00:56 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 05:59:37 PMJust because you don't see it as a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.No shit. Do not patronize me.Kindly demonstrate why it's a problem.Because it's a loss of sexual nervesFewer nerves = less sensitivity. I'm okay with that. I don't want to get a stiffy from a soft spring breeze.Quotebasically genital mutilation without consentuntil you're 18, your parents are in charge of your medical choices Quoteand it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight.Yes, it's possible.Just because they can make the decision does not hide the fact from what it really is.
Quote from: SuperIrish on December 03, 2014, 06:04:54 PMOr removing the appendix to stop the chance of it bursting on us.That one makes a lot of sense, actually.
Or removing the appendix to stop the chance of it bursting on us.
Quote from: Mad Max on December 03, 2014, 06:06:36 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 03, 2014, 06:05:57 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:03:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 06:00:56 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 05:59:37 PMJust because you don't see it as a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.No shit. Do not patronize me.Kindly demonstrate why it's a problem.Because it's a loss of sexual nerves, basically genital mutilation without consent, and it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight.I remember reading you lose upwards of 50,000 nerve endings when the foreskin is removed. Basically, slowly rub your finger across your palm, then do the same to the top of your hand. The former being normal, the latter being a circumcised penis.BUT MUH NIRVES!Basically you enjoy sex a lot less having a circumcised penis. Thankfully you don't know what you're missing so I'll leave you to delude yourself into thinking you're better off than I am.
Quote from: challengerX on December 03, 2014, 06:05:57 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:03:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 06:00:56 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 05:59:37 PMJust because you don't see it as a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.No shit. Do not patronize me.Kindly demonstrate why it's a problem.Because it's a loss of sexual nerves, basically genital mutilation without consent, and it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight.I remember reading you lose upwards of 50,000 nerve endings when the foreskin is removed. Basically, slowly rub your finger across your palm, then do the same to the top of your hand. The former being normal, the latter being a circumcised penis.BUT MUH NIRVES!
Quote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:03:42 PMBecause it's a loss of sexual nerves, basically genital mutilation without consent, and it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight."Without consent."So you're an anti-natalist, then? Excellent.
Basically you enjoy sex a lot less having a circumcised penis. Thankfully you don't know what you're missing so I'll leave you to delude yourself into thinking you're better off than I am.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 06:07:42 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:03:42 PMBecause it's a loss of sexual nerves, basically genital mutilation without consent, and it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight."Without consent."So you're an anti-natalist, then? Excellent.
Quote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:07:15 PMQuote from: Mad Max on December 03, 2014, 06:05:35 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:03:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 06:00:56 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 05:59:37 PMJust because you don't see it as a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.No shit. Do not patronize me.Kindly demonstrate why it's a problem.Because it's a loss of sexual nervesFewer nerves = less sensitivity. I'm okay with that. I don't want to get a stiffy from a soft spring breeze.Quotebasically genital mutilation without consentuntil you're 18, your parents are in charge of your medical choices Quoteand it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight.Yes, it's possible.Just because they can make the decision does not hide the fact from what it really is.Mutilation? Everything still works as designed.
Quote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:11:22 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 06:07:42 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:03:42 PMBecause it's a loss of sexual nerves, basically genital mutilation without consent, and it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight."Without consent."So you're an anti-natalist, then? Excellent.The consent argument is absolutely bogus. I can make the same exact argument that my parents didn't ask me if I wanted to get born in the first place. If you're gonna make any consent argument and you're not an anti-natalist, you're a hypocrite.
The consent argument is absolutely bogus. I can make the same exact argument that my parents didn't ask me if I wanted to get born in the first place. If you're gonna make any consent argument and you're not an anti-natalist, you're a hypocrite.
Quote from: challengerX on December 03, 2014, 06:08:15 PMBasically you enjoy sex a lot less having a circumcised penis. Thankfully you don't know what you're missing so I'll leave you to delude yourself into thinking you're better off than I am. This is how you argue with everyone, isn't it? So obnoxious.No, you're gonna have to provide hard evidence for your claims. I really don't buy the idea that foreskin makes sex better. That, to me, seems ludicrous. It's fucking... what is it? It's protective skin. Itch skin. It's not sensual skin. It has absolutely nothing to do with good sex. It's to prevent your cock from getting pricked by pricker bushes and shit--you know, the kind of stuff you're not running around in anymore? So we should KEEP artifacts for no reason?
Quote from: Mad Max on December 03, 2014, 06:07:52 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:07:15 PMQuote from: Mad Max on December 03, 2014, 06:05:35 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 06:03:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 03, 2014, 06:00:56 PMQuote from: Septy on December 03, 2014, 05:59:37 PMJust because you don't see it as a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.No shit. Do not patronize me.Kindly demonstrate why it's a problem.Because it's a loss of sexual nervesFewer nerves = less sensitivity. I'm okay with that. I don't want to get a stiffy from a soft spring breeze.Quotebasically genital mutilation without consentuntil you're 18, your parents are in charge of your medical choices Quoteand it can make erections painful for circumcised men since the skin can be cut very tight.Yes, it's possible.Just because they can make the decision does not hide the fact from what it really is.Mutilation? Everything still works as designed.The human penis was designed with a foreskin. It's like saying a car missing a steering wheel still works as designed. It was not designed that way.