Quote from: Madman Mordo on February 24, 2015, 02:28:15 PM

Quote from: Flee on February 24, 2015, 11:40:58 AM

There's only so much you can do with therapy though.

Says who?

Every decent therapist ever? There's a reason why they can prescribe drugs and certain types of treatment. Talking can do a lot of good. But there's certain things that just talking can't fix.

I'm not necessarily saying fix. Very rarely do psychiatrists completely cure an individual of mental illness. Mitigate however? Entirely possible. The fact that was never even considered is peculiar.

Quote from: Madman Mordo on February 24, 2015, 04:27:35 PM

Quote from: Flee on February 24, 2015, 04:02:34 PM

Quote from: Madman Mordo on February 24, 2015, 02:28:15 PM

Quote from: Flee on February 24, 2015, 11:40:58 AM

There's only so much you can do with therapy though.

Says who?

Every decent therapist ever? There's a reason why they can prescribe drugs and certain types of treatment. Talking can do a lot of good. But there's certain things that just talking can't fix.

I'm not necessarily saying fix. Very rarely do psychiatrists completely cure an individual of mental illness. Mitigate however? Entirely possible. The fact that was never even considered is peculiar.

What makes you say it was never considered? He was diagnosed with GID by multiple psychiatrists at age 7 and didn't start the hormone blockers until puberty was about to start at age 11. I'd say it's rather likely he still saw psychiatrists to deal with his situation during those 4 years.

I guess my problem is this whole "hormone blocking" therapy she's undergoing. It just doesn't sound healthy for someone about to enter maturity. Is there any credible evidence it helps young troubled trangenders cope?

Discuss what exactly?

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 24, 2015, 08:13:15 PM

Discuss what exactly?

DIY sex change

And? That article's got a coating of dust on it from a few years back, so what's happened has already happened. Are we gonna discuss why we think it's immoral? Or we gonna discuss why we don't think it's immoral?

No. No we're not. All I see here is midget kicking up dust for some apparent reason and watching it settle. What the fuck is there to discuss here when no doubt the kid in the article is already going through some measure of treatments?

Are we gonna raise our swords and revolt because of this horrid display of whatever? Go all justice warrior and save that poor kid? Fuck no we're not. Old news, dead news, and the transgender/sex change horse has been beaten and fucked about 12 times over past its expiry date here.

So I ask what's left to discuss here? There's nothing. Just old dust.

Couldn't care less what other people do to their kids.

I do take back what I said about wishing I was raised by two hot lesbian step-moms.
Gonna give my old man a hug the next time I see him.

Quote from: Jocephalopod on February 24, 2015, 08:36:11 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 24, 2015, 08:13:15 PM

Discuss what exactly?

DIY sex change

And? That article's got a coating of dust on it from a few years back, so what's happened has already happened. Are we gonna discuss why we think it's immoral? Or we gonna discuss why we don't think it's immoral?

No. No we're not. All I see here is midget kicking up dust for some apparent reason and watching it settle. What the fuck is there to discuss here when no doubt the kid in the article is already going through some measure of treatments?

Are we gonna raise our swords and revolt because of this horrid display of whatever? Go all justice warrior and save that poor kid? Fuck no we're not. Old news, dead news, and the transgender/sex change horse has been beaten and fucked about 12 times over past its expiry date here.

So I ask what's left to discuss here? There's nothing. Just old dust.

Yeah reflecting on history to improve ourselves is bad, we should never learn psssssshhhhtht

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 24, 2015, 08:46:10 PM

Quote from: Jocephalopod on February 24, 2015, 08:36:11 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on February 24, 2015, 08:13:15 PM

Discuss what exactly?

DIY sex change

And? That article's got a coating of dust on it from a few years back, so what's happened has already happened. Are we gonna discuss why we think it's immoral? Or we gonna discuss why we don't think it's immoral?

No. No we're not. All I see here is midget kicking up dust for some apparent reason and watching it settle. What the fuck is there to discuss here when no doubt the kid in the article is already going through some measure of treatments?

Are we gonna raise our swords and revolt because of this horrid display of whatever? Go all justice warrior and save that poor kid? Fuck no we're not. Old news, dead news, and the transgender/sex change horse has been beaten and fucked about 12 times over past its expiry date here.

So I ask what's left to discuss here? There's nothing. Just old dust.

Yeah reflecting on history to improve ourselves is bad, we should never learn psssssshhhhtht

So how are you going to improve yourself with that little bit of history then, hmm? What mind blowing self revelations will you encounter upon reflecting on parents taking a cautious approach with their child on an already slippery slope in society concerning somebody who just simply doesn't feel right in their body?

What will you make us, as a society, learn from this? How shall we improve ourselves with this fantastic, hidden knowledge that until now remained buried like the long forgotten corpse of some pharoh in egypt?

Simple answer. Nothing.

If anything, we're poor at learning from history since the first world war was the "war to end all wars" and not even a few decades later arguably the worst conflict in our records of history shows up, world war II.

And all the way up to now ISIS is running around emulating the very same thing that was fought against in the second world war. No, reflecting only works on singular people. Self reflection accomplishes wonders with people and themselves.

Reflecting on history? It doesn't do much today.

So the question shows up yet again, sticking on the topic at hand.

What's there to discuss here? Jack shit. Two people, with a kid, having troubles and tough decisions to make, made a call like every other parent before them. Whether it works or not, who the fuck can say. Story of everybody's lives.