I don't really care about Johnson. In reality he has a 0% chance of winning. What I do care about is people taking him seriously enough to break the mentality that the only choices are Republican or Democrat. Having to choose only these options got us in this mess, and the only way out is to end it.

Or the fact that he lowered taxes 14 times in his state and still left office with the state in a surplus and with new everything. Even if what you say is true, is it wrong that his platform basically amounts to "Better than these two candidates"? Because it's fucking true. Johnson winning would be the best outcome for this election and Charlie having the attitude he has on Johnson winning this year will ensure third party candidates stay at a 0% chance because the two major parties will ride on you thinking that way next time.

All he's got to ride on is weed and most people not liking the dominant candidates.

Or the fact that he lowered taxes 14 times in his state and still left office with the state in a surplus and with new everything. Even if what you say is true, is it wrong that his platform basically amounts to "Better than these two candidates"? Because it's fucking true. Johnson winning would be the best outcome for this election and Charlie having the attitude he has on Johnson winning this year will ensure third party candidates stay at a 0% chance because the two major parties will ride on you thinking that way next time.

Quote from: Antifragile on September 06, 2016, 03:07:23 PM

All he's got to ride on is weed and most people not liking the dominant candidates.

What? My saying I don't really care about him? I don't agree with his policies. And he doesn't have a chance. I want people to vote for their candidate. Not just one of the two presented to them. FTR, I'm still writing in Sanders. Is it a wasted vote? Probably. But my vote counts for little in CA. California will be a blue state as long as the sky is blue.

No, saying he has a 0% chance. That line of thinking is exactly what both parties want you to think. Cause if everyone thinks this way this year, they'll think this way in 2020, and 2024, it'll never end.

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 06, 2016, 06:33:27 PM

What? My saying I don't really care about him?

Then you missed the point. Johnson won't win. He doesn't have the machine backing Clinton or the irresistible charm (insanity?) that Trump has to the media. That's a simple fact.

People need to take the long view on this. It's not about your horse winning the race, but your voice being heard.