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Also I honestly think leaving this site helped me a lot with that, I got into more positive circles and less harmful ones all around.

I’m glad you’re doing better and not associating with the lame ass people you were before. I wish you nothing but the best. Thank you for showing everybody that it’s never too late to change.

Cheers man, I hope you are/will take care of yourself too.

It's funny, because I used to think "why do people on here hate me?" But honestly looking back on it I can totally fucking understand completely. Very sorry for the things I've done and how I acted, to say the least.

I came here recently to tell Cheat to delete my account/permaban me, because of the ugly history this website has which was propagated by you and users like you. I didn’t want to be associated with this place anymore. Then I saw your post, and it was like after those 5 years of posting hate, you made up for all of it. That’s why I said thank you. To see that you changed, you have no idea the way it impacted me, and the hope it gave me that maybe we can all move past this together. I know this is long and maybe it’s a little too sentimental, but it’s how I feel. What you say on the internet does affect people, no matter how anonymous you think you are. Thank you Ender.

The idea of you typing this with a straight face is baffling

Dude you actively go to 4chan every day, you don’t have a leg to stand on.

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Quote from: E on July 16, 2020, 01:24:39 AM

The only people worth being or feeling condescending to are druggies, murderers and rapists. By chance you don't strike me as any of those. It's as simple as that. I asked, got an answer, and called it a day.

Quote from: E on July 16, 2020, 01:34:01 AM

Sure he can. That'd be the rational and easy to make choice. But for whatever reason he deems it necessary to delete his account. I'm not much for bothering to summon an argument over people and their semantics because on most accounts they'll just do them anyway. Just so long as they do their semantics out of my life my day isn't totally fucked by default.

Get a load of Oliver Twist over here HAHAHA. No the rational choice is to not want to be associated with shit like this
http://sep7agon.net/the-flood/meme-thread-69992/3420/

The site’s history is ugly, and it continues to be an ugly and disgusting place. If you’re here and not actively speaking against shit like this, one can only assume you’re either for it or it doesn’t bother you enough to make you want to say anything or leave. So please, shove your pseudo intellectual bullshit up your ass.

The only particular reason I pull an oliver twist is because I can admit that I have an immense disdain for druggies in particular, since people of those caliber have been responsible for the biggest losses in my life. That line of people are one of the few who can bother me enough to argue.

Onto your main point. I won't refute that this place appears to be an ugly place on occassion, and I haven't been around here to know it's history. But to my eyes, the stuff that goes on here is no different than to what I've seen everywhere else on the internet, unless it's a totally ironed in hugbox with ridiculously strict regulations on the content allowed to be posted, and in my experience, those places tend to regress anyway, amounting to all the same shit in the end.

I can totally understand not wanting to associate with something or somebody, but to my personal views on life, hiding from the shit you've done and trying to cover it up like it never happened is just as bad as being ignorant to the shit you do or say in the first place. Hiding the bad shit doesn't make it go away, it's just some hollow moral booster to make yourself feel better and look better under scrutiny, which is a load of tripe. Self improvement or striving to be a better person isn't about burying your mistakes, it's about acknowledging them and having the spine to admit that in the past you made mistakes, you associated with shit people, etc. I don't think self improvement is your goal, you just want out, and you want to bury your past, move on and start "clean." Go for it.  But for somebody who wants so badly to be rid of this place, the fact that you're continuing the conversation with me is an indicator in the opposite direction. Is some random internet passerby really worth coming back to a place you apparently vehemently despise? Whatever.

As for me and speaking out against shit? For one, I won't usually speak about things I'm not adequately versed in. I assume the issue here is those goerge floyd posts. I haven't kept up with that case. As for social issues and trash people, I can admit freely that there's almost nothing posted on the internet that phases me, because to me it's all just social trash and people's egos, and it's meaningless to me because I spent years out in the streets, saw places, people and shit that are forever burned into the back of my mind.

You walk into a house where a guy's blown his head apart with a shotgun or you have to call the police to notify them that your friend OD'd because they got hooked on spiked shit from a piece of shit dealer while you could do nothing to stop it. And then you jump onto the net and see all these fucking people posting shit in lala land, waving around their egos, virtue signalling and making fake as fuck social justice posts to ride on the feel good wave of fake accomplishment. Or just shitposters and asshole people. It's a tide of irrelevancy to me that I gloss over because it's like watching children argue and fight.

I dunno if it's wrong of me to feel so detached, a million for the person who could fix me. Whatever. That's the most words I've bothered to talk or write in months. Thanks for the conversation, at least. Just do your shit dude. Doesn't matter anyway.

Yeah sorry I’m not a nihilist cool guy like you dude hahaha. I’ve seen plenty of ugly shit in my time, that doesn’t make racism irrelevant just because it’s on the internet. Honestly I don’t believe you’ve been through any of that shit, because if that were the case you’d be more empathetic instead of less.

I don't figure I intended to imply that racism was irrelevant, because I know it's not. One of my better friends down in Georgia got killed in his own house by a drive by a few years ago. I remember all the talks he and I shared about that mess going on down in the states. The massive culture difference between canada and the states, the larger divide between whites and blacks, and the troubles within black communities themselves.

To a degree, I am empathetic, yes. It's one of the things I've got tethering me to life. Without that I would've succeeded in killing myself rather than thinking about the consequences of what it would mean for the person who found my body, and for the person whose firearm I stole to do it. It's one of the few things I have in my life now that keeps me going because I don't have much to live for. I'm mostly null inside and despite working on the problem for years now, there's stuff I just can't seem to get back.

In my experience people can go either way with empathy. Bad shit either makes people more empathetic, or jaded. Sometimes it's a mix up. I take a simple approach to life in the capacity that my empathy can function. I try to change things when I can physically do it. It's the most effective way to do things, at least in my case. I rarely bother with internet outreach because you're dealing with more obstacles and mental barriers that are nearly impossible to break due to the mostly intangible nature of the internet. There's ego, mental gymnastics, insecurities, etc. You can bypass some of those in physical presence.

So you call me a cool guy nihilist if you want. I'll tell you it's hell waking up the way I do in the morning and it's hell having to carry around so many friends and loved ones of mine as nothing more than just memories. It's like I'm constantly just half a person. That extends to my empathy. I expend my efforts where I believe it counts because I don't know how much effort I actively have left in me. I'm not going to make a shit of difference arguing semantics with some or multiple dumbasses online who'll twist everything to validate their life's view on things. I'll make a better difference by not being an asshole in person, standing up for bullshit if I see it happening in the real world, and helping if I can.

At any rate, you try not being a jaded near suicidal shell of a person who lost everything good they ever had in their life and get back to me on how easy it is to summon the will not to be emotionally damaged or vacant. Fuck, maybe you're just doing better than me in progress, who knows. Believe it or don't. At the very least I know where I stand in life.

Racism's shit, people are mostly shit, and I'm fucking tired and barely able to care about all of it. I stick around because the good people I met along the way wouldn't want me to call it quits, and they wouldn't want me to turn out to be an asshole to others out of spite for all the trash others have inflicted on to me. I need to own up to my mistakes as well. That's the best I can currently do.

I don't have a motif to lie. Whether you care or believe is irrelevant as ultimately I'm just passing through here, like the majority of places I visit, and like everybody else alive. I asked a simple question and got my answer, and now here we are, talking politics and being egotistical enough to continue the discussion. Well, that's enough from me.

I can’t lie to you my boy I’m not gonna read this 😂👌

I find it very interesting how so many of you apologized and then immediately became hostile afterwards, almost as if you can’t handle the guilt of how you treated me and now you’re lashing out at me because of it.

Quote from: ಠ_ಠ on July 17, 2020, 12:31:01 AM

Am I supposed to just kiss your ass because I apologized? What happened to not holding things against people? Do I drag you through the mud for calling me mentally diseased? You forget that I only behaved that way in response to how you treated me at the time. Don't take that as me excusing my past behaviour, I've already apologized for it anyway.

You're not immune to criticism just because you think you're better than everyone else. In fact, having an attitude like that creates all the more reason for criticism. Your turn every thread you're in into a flame war and this response perfectly illustrates how and why.

You apologized and I told you your apology wasn’t even necessary as you apologized to me years ago, and I did the same. But no, you legit called me a sandnigger because I told you stop whining about something related to the site, let’s not mix things up either. Again, I don’t hold any of this against you since you apologized years ago.

Why did you feel the need to keep responding to me?

You said “ it's just so fucking weird and lame” and you’re telling me I’m negative? And it just disassociate me, there’s a reason people here have done it. Flee being a recent example. I can’t tell you exactly why Flee asked to do it because I haven’t talked to him in a long time but he definitely doesn’t have anything to hide. I imagine he has similar reasons to mine.

You started getting aggressive and I said “ok I really appreciate your input” to let you know I was done talking because you started being rude. Now you’re gonna act like I was being rude in the first place? I was trying to end my conversation with you as amicably as possible, I don’t understand why you’re having trouble understanding why someone wouldn’t want to be associated with this place. Honestly, I’m surprised you’re still here.

No I wasn’t dodging your question. I don’t have anything I wish to hide, I just don’t want to have an active account on here. As far as I know Cheat can blacklist accounts and I remember once he actually deleted Deci’s account. I don’t know, I’ll see once Cheat gets back to me.