You know, I know what I'm about to bring up is stupid and not related to Brexit or whatever and is probably a waste of time, but I can't stand that fucking "rape culture" thing the feminists are always going on about. I mean, yeah, I have a tendency to get caught in arguments because I guess I just get bored and like to have something to worry about to make me feel like my life (or anyone else's life for that matter) means a shit, but it's just... I don't care when people get raped as much as when someone is religious and trying to pass religious laws, or say some bullshit religious stuff. Rape is just something that happens like meteors and lightning strikes, there's something different about the mind of a rapist than a "normal" human mind, because as a reflection of the chaotic order of the universe, there happens to be some people who will come and hit you like a bolt of lightning because that's just the sort of world we live in. Doesn't mean that I enjoy that that happens, or that I think that it's okay, but I actually have more sympathy for someone who does something like that, because at least I know that there's probably something fundamentally different about their brain, and people don't even know about that or care and they just wanna go and say that rapists are the problem and we need to teach society not to rape.

You wanna teach people to give a shit about whether or not they rape someone? That doesn't work, society is filled with vicious fucks who don't care, and you know who is really like that? Religious people, with their self righteousness and the fact that their minds are probably even more fucked up. But no one gives a fuck about that, people think that religious people are just a totally cool normal part of our society, NO. I mean, this is just me shouting at the empty void wishing that there was some element of power that could shift in the side of good, like an actual fucking good guy, but religion is a horrible illogical stupid concept that's perpetuated because people's minds are not capable of intelligent thinking. Yet some how, when I look at these people who are rapists and I don't see the epitome of evil, I see them for what they really are which is just a bunch of people who have much different ways of thinking and probably different biology from me, I get called a fucking rape apologist. What the fuck am I apologizing for? People are fucking morons and they can't realize jack fucking shit about this planet, which is why I fucking fantasize about suicide all the time and am always muttering under my breath "I can't fucking wait to die". PS I don't actually wanna die, because I wanna live for 1000 years and watch religion finally die out.

Then you get people trying to say that rapists are evil. WHAT THE FUCK IS "EVIL"? Can you explain that concept using science? NOOOOO. If you can't explain it with science, then it's not a part of our fucking universe. Everything in our universe exists on some sort of scientific level, because we observe absolutely everything in the universe with science. The reason that evil doesn't exist is because there's no level of importance in our universe, if an astroid came and wiped out our entire fucking planet, 0 fucks would be given, because no one would be around to give those fucks, because we'd all be dead! HAH! I say fucking good riddance, to this stupid fucking planet of empty headed simpletons, of which I am one of the sole bastions of intelligence and wisdom. FUCK EM! So sick of being one of the only smart people on this entire planet, it's like a fucking god send when I see anyone who can see the world intelligently, there's people who far surpass my intelligence and I fucking ENVY THEM. Soooooooo yeah fuck the human race, and yay rape, go rape that mother fucking cunt, bitch was probably a stupid feminist cunt anyways.

Rape violates the NAP and thus rapists must be cast out of a perfect Libertarian society.
So the Paul has written it, so it shall be.

The NAP? lol

By this logic, you feel sympathy for pedophiles too

Whoa wait wait, what's wrong with that?

Sympathize with them all you want. It doesn't take away from the fact that what they're doing is abhorrently wrong. I'd argue pedophilia they have something more wrong with their brain. Rape? That ones a different story if you ask me.

what is "wrong"? It's only wrong to you because the side of not hurting other human beings has been the historic winner, because the majority of people have empathy for other people, but the victor is the one who decides history, and if it were the other way around then people would be saying rape is good because it gets people off. I'm not condoning rape or whatever, I'm just saying that that's the nature of the reality we live in, so whenever I see that whole "it's morally wrong thing" I just cringe because it's such a one sided perspective. Yeah it's "wrong", but that doesn't mean that the universe itself sides with you, that doesn't mean that the nature of the universe itself isn't indifferent, and guess what we're made of the same molecules and properties of matter that fucking trees are made of, fucking trees and a 1 year old boy are just as "bad" as rapists and pedophiles. So do you see how your logic just sort of annoys me?

What the hell are you talking about? Last I checked the "universe" isn't exactly a sentient being with a set of morals or its own thinking process.

When I say it's morally wrong, I mean humanity as a whole pretty much condemns it in a civilized society, and has since we've been around. Going against someones will is generally a no no.

And again, I'm still lost as to what point you're trying to establish. If you mean our entire actions and logic doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, it sounds like you're just trying to be nihilistic for the sake of being nihilistic. To which I'll link you this.

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Yeah, exactly, the universe doesn't have a mind, there is no god.

And?

Since when does that suddenly make everything worthless?

You're living in a consumerist society where we're all slaves to money, you wanna tell me about worthless?

Money helps a society function, before that it was bartering which was a little more sketchy. We place value on things. We always have as a human race.


I don't think I want to get into a huge philosophical debate with you. Not now at least.

Yeah, the fact that money is our solution to the problem is a big flaw. And there's not a word in the English language or 100 anecdotes that I could use to describe how fucked up it is that we live in this consumerist society.

Quote from: Loaf on June 28, 2016, 06:44:16 PM

Quote from: Luciana on June 28, 2016, 06:39:22 PM

Money helps a society function, before that it was bartering which was a little more sketchy. We place value on things. We always have as a human race.


I don't think I want to get into a huge philosophical debate with you. Not now at least.

Yeah, the fact that money is our solution to the problem is a big flaw. And there's not a word in the English language or 100 anecdotes that I could use to describe how fucked up it is that we live in this consumerist society.

But what's the "problem"? I don't think getting rid of money would solve this problem. No one answer is the answer.

Yeah, exactly. It's like Albert Camus's The Stranger all over again.

Killing myself because today I found out I agree with zen AND loaf about something


Morals aren't objective