Jeb Bush to "Actively Explore 2016 Candidacy"

More Than Mortal · December 16, 2014, 04:37:31 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 04:34:45 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 16, 2014, 04:27:42 PM
Quote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 04:25:18 PM
Because Ron Paul's views, in general, only catered to a very minor, extremely hardcore, group.
Well the guy's failed bid did spawn the Tea Party, I don't know if I'd characterise them as "minor" or "extremely hardcore".

Ron Paul's failed bid is not what spawned the Tea Party. >.>

Wrong word.

Galvanised would be a better word. The Tea Party certainly wasn't created as a result of Paul's bid.

Alternative Facts · December 16, 2014, 04:43:05 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 16, 2014, 04:37:31 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 04:34:45 PM
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 16, 2014, 04:27:42 PM
Quote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 04:25:18 PM
Because Ron Paul's views, in general, only catered to a very minor, extremely hardcore, group.
Well the guy's failed bid did spawn the Tea Party, I don't know if I'd characterise them as "minor" or "extremely hardcore".

Ron Paul's failed bid is not what spawned the Tea Party. >.>
Wrong word.

Galvanised would be a better word. The Tea Party certainly wasn't created as a result of Paul's bid.

I would hardly say Paul had must impact on the creation. The Tea Party really stemmed from the passing of Obamacare, and the far right Republican's anger over the Democrats in Congress.

More Than Mortal · December 16, 2014, 04:46:48 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 04:43:05 PM

The Tea Party really stemmed from the passing of Obamacare, and the far right Republican's anger over the Democrats in Congress.

What? No way.

I've no doubt that broadened its support base but it certainly wasn't created in response to Obamacare.

Alternative Facts · December 16, 2014, 04:49:51 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 16, 2014, 04:46:48 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 04:43:05 PM
The Tea Party really stemmed from the passing of Obamacare, and the far right Republican's anger over the Democrats in Congress.
What? No way.

I've no doubt that broadened its support base but it certainly wasn't created in response to Obamacare.

Hmm. You're partially correct, in that a Fox News contributor said it came from Ron Paul's campaign failure. Of course, this is Fox News, so anything they said should be looked at.

The actual modern Tea Party didn't really begin to gain shape and focus until 2009 - once again, over anger at Democrats and Congress. It actually become recognized in 2010.

BrenMan 94 · December 17, 2014, 12:05:01 AM

Quote from: Fagcicle on December 16, 2014, 04:43:05 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 16, 2014, 04:37:31 PM
Quote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 04:34:45 PM
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 16, 2014, 04:27:42 PM
Quote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 04:25:18 PM
Because Ron Paul's views, in general, only catered to a very minor, extremely hardcore, group.
Well the guy's failed bid did spawn the Tea Party, I don't know if I'd characterise them as "minor" or "extremely hardcore".

Ron Paul's failed bid is not what spawned the Tea Party. >.>
Wrong word.

Galvanised would be a better word. The Tea Party certainly wasn't created as a result of Paul's bid.

I would hardly say Paul had must impact on the creation. The Tea Party really stemmed from the passing of Obamacare, and the far right Republican's anger over the Democrats in Congress.

Ron Paul brought grievances with federal spending to the forefront of the Republican primary. Many early Tea Party protests were held in response to TARP and the economic stimulus package of 2009. To say that Ron Paul didn't have a significant impact on the group's origins is to either be ignorant or misinformed.

Jono · December 17, 2014, 02:26:44 AM

No more Bushes and no more Clintons

RAND PAUL 2016