ITT: Countries that need to shape up their fucking military

ban me · October 08, 2015, 02:15:13 AM

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Septy · October 08, 2015, 02:18:04 AM

Yes. All of NATO could be brought down by Russia's military.

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Septy · October 08, 2015, 02:24:02 AM

Quote from: Iberian Husky on October 08, 2015, 02:21:34 AM

Quote from: Septy on October 08, 2015, 02:18:04 AM
Yes. All of NATO could be brought down by Russia's military.
Logistics. The Eurocucks are far too reliant on America for defense. If Russians were to invade, the Eurocucks would get steamrolled and America would be forced to spread itself too thin because the Eurocucks have no idea how to properly defend themselves.

This sounds like the plot for the next Call of Duty

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · October 08, 2015, 02:27:21 AM

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Luciana · October 08, 2015, 04:05:36 AM

America and Britain are the only ones who seem to give a fuck about military honestly.

But keep in mind that WW2 scared a lot of Europe from a big military, and Russia wouldn't dare invade lol. All of those countries united would spell the end of Russia.

And honestly, you give Russia's military too much credit. They're trying to upgrade their military, yes, but their economy is still crippled and it would take years upon years to reach the US's power level in tech.

Luciana · October 08, 2015, 04:06:26 AM

Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 08, 2015, 02:27:21 AM

Almost all of NATO

If you fuckers want the US to stop playing world police, start picking up the slack and taking care of yourselves so it doesn't have to.

America doesn't meet Europe's standard of living because it spends so goddamn much money pumping up it's muscles to watch out for you pasty fucks.

If every NATO member actually met the spending minimum they fucking agreed to there'd be no need for us to stress so much.

Instead America acts as the bodyguard of Europe while retarded socialists shit all over us.

I'd say America does it because after World War 2 it was a super power, and after the Cold War it was the ONLY super power. Why give up something you had?

Let's be real here, America's military is like a nuke. It's just one big giant deterrent for other countries really. Well, other first world countries.

Isara · October 08, 2015, 04:13:02 AM

Quote from: Septy on October 08, 2015, 02:24:02 AM

Quote from: Iberian Husky on October 08, 2015, 02:21:34 AM
Quote from: Septy on October 08, 2015, 02:18:04 AM
Yes. All of NATO could be brought down by Russia's military.
Logistics. The Eurocucks are far too reliant on America for defense. If Russians were to invade, the Eurocucks would get steamrolled and America would be forced to spread itself too thin because the Eurocucks have no idea how to properly defend themselves.
This sounds like the plot for the next Call of Duty

That was the plot for Modern Warfare 3.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · October 08, 2015, 04:15:34 AM

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Genghis Khan · October 08, 2015, 06:33:52 AM

All of Nato.

Ajax · October 08, 2015, 07:07:42 AM

Quote from: Iberian Husky on October 08, 2015, 02:21:34 AM

Quote from: Septy on October 08, 2015, 02:18:04 AM
Yes. All of NATO could be brought down by Russia's military.
Logistics. The Eurocucks are far too reliant on America for defense. If Russians were to invade, the Eurocucks would get steamrolled and America + UK would end up being the sole defenders of Europe because the Eurocucks have no idea how to properly defend themselves.

nukes

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · October 08, 2015, 07:51:56 AM

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Mr. Psychologist · October 08, 2015, 09:11:08 AM

Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 08, 2015, 07:51:56 AM

Quote from: The Dude on October 08, 2015, 07:07:42 AM
Quote from: Iberian Husky on October 08, 2015, 02:21:34 AM
Quote from: Septy on October 08, 2015, 02:18:04 AM
Yes. All of NATO could be brought down by Russia's military.
Logistics. The Eurocucks are far too reliant on America for defense. If Russians were to invade, the Eurocucks would get steamrolled and America + UK would end up being the sole defenders of Europe because the Eurocucks have no idea how to properly defend themselves.

nukes
so what does a nuke owner do when another nuclear-armed country call its bluff?

We all die.

The Lord Ruler · October 08, 2015, 09:18:53 AM

Quote from: Septy on October 08, 2015, 02:24:02 AM

Quote from: Iberian Husky on October 08, 2015, 02:21:34 AM
Quote from: Septy on October 08, 2015, 02:18:04 AM
Yes. All of NATO could be brought down by Russia's military.
Logistics. The Eurocucks are far too reliant on America for defense. If Russians were to invade, the Eurocucks would get steamrolled and America would be forced to spread itself too thin because the Eurocucks have no idea how to properly defend themselves.
This sounds like the plot for the next Call of Duty

Copy that.

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Alternative Facts · October 08, 2015, 09:56:40 AM

Australia.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · October 08, 2015, 09:58:30 AM

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Alternative Facts · October 08, 2015, 10:13:31 AM

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Australia.
Why would anyone invade Australia

Stronger US ally in the Pacific would be a bit more of a deterrent to China.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · October 08, 2015, 10:22:34 AM

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Alternative Facts · October 08, 2015, 10:28:02 AM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 10:22:34 AM

Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 08, 2015, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 08, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
Australia.
Why would anyone invade Australia

Stronger US ally in the Pacific would be a bit more of a deterrent to China.
-snip-

That's why Japan exists and they've been getting approval to expand their military lately

Japan's military is never going to be strong enough of a deterrent - at least alone.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · October 08, 2015, 10:28:26 AM

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Sandtrap · October 08, 2015, 11:59:00 AM

Quote from: Iberian Husky on October 08, 2015, 02:21:34 AM

Quote from: Septy on October 08, 2015, 02:18:04 AM
Yes. All of NATO could be brought down by Russia's military.
Logistics. The Eurocucks are far too reliant on America for defense. If Russians were to invade, the Eurocucks would get steamrolled and America + UK would end up being the sole defenders of Europe because the Eurocucks have no idea how to properly defend themselves.

They'd probably drag Canada into it as well. We actually do have a decent military and fighting force with good history behind it. We just don't brag much. Canada gets dragged where the US goes.

Azumarill · October 08, 2015, 12:07:22 PM

Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 08, 2015, 10:13:31 AM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 08, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
Australia.
Why would anyone invade Australia

Stronger US ally in the Pacific would be a bit more of a deterrent to China.

South Korea and Japan are fine buffers. China has no reason to engage in military conflict with us because we're so closely commercially tied. We have a very mutually beneficial relationship with them.

Besides, what kind of threat would they realistically pose to the continental USA? It's not like we could actually be invaded. http://www.vice.com/read/we-asked-a-military-expert-if-the-whole-world-could-conquer-the-united-states

Ajax · October 08, 2015, 01:02:02 PM

Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 08, 2015, 07:51:56 AM

Quote from: The Dude on October 08, 2015, 07:07:42 AM
Quote from: Iberian Husky on October 08, 2015, 02:21:34 AM
Quote from: Septy on October 08, 2015, 02:18:04 AM
Yes. All of NATO could be brought down by Russia's military.
Logistics. The Eurocucks are far too reliant on America for defense. If Russians were to invade, the Eurocucks would get steamrolled and America + UK would end up being the sole defenders of Europe because the Eurocucks have no idea how to properly defend themselves.

nukes
so what does a nuke owner do when another nuclear-armed country call its bluff?

press the big red button

Mad Max · October 08, 2015, 01:33:34 PM

How about literally everyone else so the US doesn't have to respond to every goddamn thing?

eggsalad · October 08, 2015, 02:15:16 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on October 08, 2015, 12:07:22 PM

Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 08, 2015, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 08, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
Australia.
Why would anyone invade Australia

Stronger US ally in the Pacific would be a bit more of a deterrent to China.
South Korea and Japan are fine buffers. China has no reason to engage in military conflict with us because we're so closely commercially tied. We have a very mutually beneficial relationship with them.

Besides, what kind of threat would they realistically pose to the continental USA? It's not like we could actually be invaded. http://www.vice.com/read/we-asked-a-military-expert-if-the-whole-world-could-conquer-the-united-states

America policy is still grounded in Trumanistic doctrine, unfortunately.

Azumarill · October 08, 2015, 02:17:17 PM

Quote from: eggsalad on October 08, 2015, 02:15:16 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on October 08, 2015, 12:07:22 PM
Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 08, 2015, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 08, 2015, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 08, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
Australia.
Why would anyone invade Australia

Stronger US ally in the Pacific would be a bit more of a deterrent to China.
South Korea and Japan are fine buffers. China has no reason to engage in military conflict with us because we're so closely commercially tied. We have a very mutually beneficial relationship with them.

Besides, what kind of threat would they realistically pose to the continental USA? It's not like we could actually be invaded. http://www.vice.com/read/we-asked-a-military-expert-if-the-whole-world-could-conquer-the-united-states
America policy is still grounded in Trumanistic doctrine, unfortunately.

Yeah, it's a weird relationship because of all the feelers each superpower has in the global community, but at the end of the day I do not think that we should be worried about any sort of military conflict with China. At least not in the immediate future.

More Than Mortal · October 08, 2015, 02:41:13 PM

Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 08, 2015, 02:27:21 AM

America doesn't meet Europe's standard of living because it spends so goddamn much money pumping up its muscles to watch out for you pasty fucks.

While I agree with your general point, this is incorrect. American military spending is currently insignificant relative to historical episodes like Korea. 4pc of GDP isn't all that much.