ISIS talks of religious genocide, killing "hundreds of millions"

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Breitbart is objectively shit, but that doesn't mean you ignore everything they say. Milo has been better than a lot of other mainstream journos on gg. The trick with biased outlets is sifting through the garbage.

As far as the actual topic goes. I'm sure if we just ignore ISIS they'll go away. /s


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First off, allow me to take a moment to laugh at linking "Breitbart"
It is pretty hilarious considering you've linked MSNBC and HuffPost innumerable times in the past.
Breitbart.com is objectively worse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC_controversies
Yeah I don't know about that.

MSNBC was also the news outlet that had the cumnugget Matt Binder on air and took everything he had to say as the gospel truth and refused to give any credence to gamergate arguments. Top notch journalistic practices right there.
Not being open to debate on Gamergate is hardly as bad as believing in a fictional terrorist organization. You have failed your readers if you refuse to acknowledge utter falsehoods.
Actually taking everything in such a black and white manner is the antithesis of good journalism. Reputable journalism is supposed to analyze, investigate and consider two sides of the argument in an egalitarian manner. That's why I respect David Pakman on his reporting on Gamergate despite him being relatively left leaning. He remains non partisan and neutral.

Not sure why you're trying to compare Gamergate with ISIS anyway.
Because you did.
No I brought up an example of poor journalistic practices within MSNBC and multiple major discrepancies within their reports to bring attention to the fact that they're just as bad, if not perhaps worse, than Breitbart.

It was you that conflated the two together, actually.
If you're going to compare two news sources, you have to compare the facts themselves, or else what's the point? We can't have some invisible boundary that's like 'let's look at these separately and give them equal negative value' because that's dishonest.


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First off, allow me to take a moment to laugh at linking "Breitbart"
It is pretty hilarious considering you've linked MSNBC and HuffPost innumerable times in the past.
Breitbart.com is objectively worse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC_controversies
Yeah I don't know about that.

MSNBC was also the news outlet that had the cumnugget Matt Binder on air and took everything he had to say as the gospel truth and refused to give any credence to gamergate arguments. Top notch journalistic practices right there.
Not being open to debate on Gamergate is hardly as bad as believing in a fictional terrorist organization. You have failed your readers if you refuse to acknowledge utter falsehoods.
Actually taking everything in such a black and white manner is the antithesis of good journalism. Reputable journalism is supposed to analyze, investigate and consider two sides of the argument in an egalitarian manner. That's why I respect David Pakman on his reporting on Gamergate despite him being relatively left leaning. He remains non partisan and neutral.

Not sure why you're trying to compare Gamergate with ISIS anyway.
Because you did.
No I brought up an example of poor journalistic practices within MSNBC and multiple major discrepancies within their reports to bring attention to the fact that they're just as bad, if not perhaps worse, than Breitbart.

It was you that conflated the two together, actually.
If you're going to compare two news sources, you have to compare the facts themselves, or else what's the point? We can't have some invisible boundary that's like 'let's look at these separately and give them equal negative value' because that's dishonest.
Exactly.

Which is why I linked multiple controversies for MSNBC whereas you linked one for Breitbart. If you'd like to find a different way to quantify Breitbart and MSNBC's bias then you're more than welcome to try.


 
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What is even going on?

Can't we all just agree that MSNBC and Breitbart are just as bad as each other when it comes to misrepresentation?

And thus MSNBC is qualitatively worse since regular left-of-centre views are already misrepresentations of reality?

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First off, allow me to take a moment to laugh at linking "Breitbart"
It is pretty hilarious considering you've linked MSNBC and HuffPost innumerable times in the past.
Breitbart.com is objectively worse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC_controversies
Yeah I don't know about that.

MSNBC was also the news outlet that had the cumnugget Matt Binder on air and took everything he had to say as the gospel truth and refused to give any credence to gamergate arguments. Top notch journalistic practices right there.
Not being open to debate on Gamergate is hardly as bad as believing in a fictional terrorist organization. You have failed your readers if you refuse to acknowledge utter falsehoods.
Actually taking everything in such a black and white manner is the antithesis of good journalism. Reputable journalism is supposed to analyze, investigate and consider two sides of the argument in an egalitarian manner. That's why I respect David Pakman on his reporting on Gamergate despite him being relatively left leaning. He remains non partisan and neutral.

Not sure why you're trying to compare Gamergate with ISIS anyway.
Because you did.
No I brought up an example of poor journalistic practices within MSNBC and multiple major discrepancies within their reports to bring attention to the fact that they're just as bad, if not perhaps worse, than Breitbart.

It was you that conflated the two together, actually.
If you're going to compare two news sources, you have to compare the facts themselves, or else what's the point? We can't have some invisible boundary that's like 'let's look at these separately and give them equal negative value' because that's dishonest.
Exactly.

Which is why I linked multiple controversies for MSNBC whereas you linked one for Breitbart. If you'd like to find a different way to quantify Breitbart and MSNBC's bias then you're more than welcome to try.
Well, Breitbart has a few but there's not as many. I guess when you're not a 24/7 news channel, there's a lot less that can go wrong >.>

Although I feel like generally, MSNBC tries to pretend that it's more neutral than it really is. Breitbart.com has never pretended to not be biased, I don't think.


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First off, allow me to take a moment to laugh at linking "Breitbart"
It is pretty hilarious considering you've linked MSNBC and HuffPost innumerable times in the past.
Breitbart.com is objectively worse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC_controversies
Yeah I don't know about that.

MSNBC was also the news outlet that had the cumnugget Matt Binder on air and took everything he had to say as the gospel truth and refused to give any credence to gamergate arguments. Top notch journalistic practices right there.
Not being open to debate on Gamergate is hardly as bad as believing in a fictional terrorist organization. You have failed your readers if you refuse to acknowledge utter falsehoods.
Actually taking everything in such a black and white manner is the antithesis of good journalism. Reputable journalism is supposed to analyze, investigate and consider two sides of the argument in an egalitarian manner. That's why I respect David Pakman on his reporting on Gamergate despite him being relatively left leaning. He remains non partisan and neutral.

Not sure why you're trying to compare Gamergate with ISIS anyway.
Because you did.
No I brought up an example of poor journalistic practices within MSNBC and multiple major discrepancies within their reports to bring attention to the fact that they're just as bad, if not perhaps worse, than Breitbart.

It was you that conflated the two together, actually.
If you're going to compare two news sources, you have to compare the facts themselves, or else what's the point? We can't have some invisible boundary that's like 'let's look at these separately and give them equal negative value' because that's dishonest.
Exactly.

Which is why I linked multiple controversies for MSNBC whereas you linked one for Breitbart. If you'd like to find a different way to quantify Breitbart and MSNBC's bias then you're more than welcome to try.
Well, Breitbart has a few but there's not as many. I guess when you're not a 24/7 news channel, there's a lot less that can go wrong >.>

Although I feel like generally, MSNBC tries to pretend that it's more neutral than it really is. Breitbart.com has never pretended to not be biased, I don't think.
All the more evidence as to why MSNBC is shit tier.


 
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First off, allow me to take a moment to laugh at linking "Breitbart"
It is pretty hilarious considering you've linked MSNBC and HuffPost innumerable times in the past.
Breitbart.com is objectively worse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC_controversies
Yeah I don't know about that.

MSNBC was also the news outlet that had the cumnugget Matt Binder on air and took everything he had to say as the gospel truth and refused to give any credence to gamergate arguments. Top notch journalistic practices right there.
Not being open to debate on Gamergate is hardly as bad as believing in a fictional terrorist organization. You have failed your readers if you refuse to acknowledge utter falsehoods.
Actually taking everything in such a black and white manner is the antithesis of good journalism. Reputable journalism is supposed to analyze, investigate and consider two sides of the argument in an egalitarian manner. That's why I respect David Pakman on his reporting on Gamergate despite him being relatively left leaning. He remains non partisan and neutral.

Not sure why you're trying to compare Gamergate with ISIS anyway.
Because you did.
No I brought up an example of poor journalistic practices within MSNBC and multiple major discrepancies within their reports to bring attention to the fact that they're just as bad, if not perhaps worse, than Breitbart.

It was you that conflated the two together, actually.
If you're going to compare two news sources, you have to compare the facts themselves, or else what's the point? We can't have some invisible boundary that's like 'let's look at these separately and give them equal negative value' because that's dishonest.
Exactly.

Which is why I linked multiple controversies for MSNBC whereas you linked one for Breitbart. If you'd like to find a different way to quantify Breitbart and MSNBC's bias then you're more than welcome to try.
Well, Breitbart has a few but there's not as many. I guess when you're not a 24/7 news channel, there's a lot less that can go wrong >.>

Although I feel like generally, MSNBC tries to pretend that it's more neutral than it really is. Breitbart.com has never pretended to not be biased, I don't think.
All the more evidence as to why MSNBC is shit tier.

Not really, but this argument has become pointless.



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First off, allow me to take a moment to laugh at linking "Breitbart"
It is pretty hilarious considering you've linked MSNBC and HuffPost innumerable times in the past.
Breitbart.com is objectively worse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSNBC_controversies
Yeah I don't know about that.

MSNBC was also the news outlet that had the cumnugget Matt Binder on air and took everything he had to say as the gospel truth and refused to give any credence to gamergate arguments. Top notch journalistic practices right there.
Not being open to debate on Gamergate is hardly as bad as believing in a fictional terrorist organization. You have failed your readers if you refuse to acknowledge utter falsehoods.
Actually taking everything in such a black and white manner is the antithesis of good journalism. Reputable journalism is supposed to analyze, investigate and consider two sides of the argument in an egalitarian manner. That's why I respect David Pakman on his reporting on Gamergate despite him being relatively left leaning. He remains non partisan and neutral.

Not sure why you're trying to compare Gamergate with ISIS anyway.
Because you did.
No I brought up an example of poor journalistic practices within MSNBC and multiple major discrepancies within their reports to bring attention to the fact that they're just as bad, if not perhaps worse, than Breitbart.

It was you that conflated the two together, actually.
If you're going to compare two news sources, you have to compare the facts themselves, or else what's the point? We can't have some invisible boundary that's like 'let's look at these separately and give them equal negative value' because that's dishonest.
Exactly.

Which is why I linked multiple controversies for MSNBC whereas you linked one for Breitbart. If you'd like to find a different way to quantify Breitbart and MSNBC's bias then you're more than welcome to try.
Well, Breitbart has a few but there's not as many. I guess when you're not a 24/7 news channel, there's a lot less that can go wrong >.>

Although I feel like generally, MSNBC tries to pretend that it's more neutral than it really is. Breitbart.com has never pretended to not be biased, I don't think.
All the more evidence as to why MSNBC is shit tier.

Not really, but this argument has become pointless.
Kinda what I'm talking about.

You have no problem attacking Breitbart but are completely comfortable to defend MSNBC. Your bias is showing.


 
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You have no problem attacking Breitbart but are completely comfortable to defend MSNBC. Your bias is showing.

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The Breitbart article proceedings to do what every great source (Including MSNBC, Fox News, etc) does with interview, and pick five sentences and leave the rest

I am not defending MSNBC - which is a bad source (And yes I have used it before, along with also using Fox News - if the article is the only one available). Whether or not you feel it is bad as Breitbart is up to you.


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You have no problem attacking Breitbart but are completely comfortable to defend MSNBC. Your bias is showing.

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The Breitbart article proceedings to do what every great source (Including MSNBC, Fox News, etc) does with interview, and pick five sentences and leave the rest

I am not defending MSNBC - which is a bad source (And yes I have used it before, along with also using Fox News - if the article is the only one available). Whether or not you feel it is bad as Breitbart is up to you.
Considering the amount of controversies and debacles MSNBC has under its wing compared to Breitbart, I think it's pretty evident which is the worst news outlet.


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Breitbart is objectively shit, but that doesn't mean you ignore everything they say. Milo has been better than a lot of other mainstream journos on gg. The trick with biased outlets is sifting through the garbage.

As far as the actual topic goes. I'm sure if we just ignore ISIS they'll go away. /s
ISIS aren't the kind of people you ignore, nor will they go away if we do.


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You have no problem attacking Breitbart but are completely comfortable to defend MSNBC. Your bias is showing.

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The Breitbart article proceedings to do what every great source (Including MSNBC, Fox News, etc) does with interview, and pick five sentences and leave the rest

I am not defending MSNBC - which is a bad source (And yes I have used it before, along with also using Fox News - if the article is the only one available). Whether or not you feel it is bad as Breitbart is up to you.
Considering the amount of controversies and debacles MSNBC has under its wing compared to Breitbart, I think it's pretty evident which is the worst news outlet.
One is a 24/7 news channel and the other is some dead guy's political blog. Of course the channel would have more controversies. >____>


 
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You have no problem attacking Breitbart but are completely comfortable to defend MSNBC. Your bias is showing.

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The Breitbart article proceedings to do what every great source (Including MSNBC, Fox News, etc) does with interview, and pick five sentences and leave the rest

I am not defending MSNBC - which is a bad source (And yes I have used it before, along with also using Fox News - if the article is the only one available). Whether or not you feel it is bad as Breitbart is up to you.
Considering the amount of controversies and debacles MSNBC has under its wing compared to Breitbart, I think it's pretty evident which is the worst news outlet.

And as Kupo said, one is a 24 hour news channel that has been around far longer than Breitbart.

But if we're going by the amount of controversies and debacles to determine how good a source is, The Huff Post is apparently quite good and clean.
Last Edit: January 20, 2015, 03:27:06 PM by Icy


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You have no problem attacking Breitbart but are completely comfortable to defend MSNBC. Your bias is showing.

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The Breitbart article proceedings to do what every great source (Including MSNBC, Fox News, etc) does with interview, and pick five sentences and leave the rest

I am not defending MSNBC - which is a bad source (And yes I have used it before, along with also using Fox News - if the article is the only one available). Whether or not you feel it is bad as Breitbart is up to you.
Considering the amount of controversies and debacles MSNBC has under its wing compared to Breitbart, I think it's pretty evident which is the worst news outlet.

And as Kupo said, one is a 24 hour news channel that has been around far longer than Breitbart.

But if we're going by the amount of controversies and debacles to determine how good a source is, The Huff Post is apparently quite good and clean.
And the Huffington Post is as relatively old as Breitbart is. Moot point.

I fail to see what longevity has to do with anything anyway. But really, I digress, I think we've both established a lot of news outlets are biased from whatever political alignment they belong to.