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Is this a hypothetical?I mean, I knew about one ISIL faction working with Al Nursa and some other Syrian rebel group to fight Hezbollah... and there's numerous rebel factions like the Arny of Mujahedeen which was formed to fight ISIL presence and the Islamic Front which shifted combat focus to ISIS for a bit if I'm not mistaken...But I haven't heard anything about an inter Islamic State civil war.
And then we'll slip through the cracks > : )
Quote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 09, 2015, 09:26:29 PMIs this a hypothetical?I mean, I knew about one ISIL faction working with Al Nursa and some other Syrian rebel group to fight Hezbollah... and there's numerous rebel factions like the Arny of Mujahedeen which was formed to fight ISIL presence and the Islamic Front which shifted combat focus to ISIS for a bit if I'm not mistaken...But I haven't heard anything about an inter Islamic State civil war.Yeah, this is hypothetical. IS does have big divisions within its different ethnic communities. Like how there is a hierarchy of Iraqis at top, then Syrians, then other Middle Eastern Arabs, then North Africans, then everyone else. Big divisions over spoils of war between those communities. But saying that IS hasn't launched a successful offensive since October last year, there aren't many spoils to fight over now.The US has kind of obliterated its vehicle fleet which is what gave it such an overwhelming edge over other Syrian rebels and the Iraqi Army.
Quote from: GethKhilafah on March 09, 2015, 09:31:13 PMQuote from: DASIUS B00TICUS SNAKESAR on March 09, 2015, 09:26:29 PMIs this a hypothetical?I mean, I knew about one ISIL faction working with Al Nursa and some other Syrian rebel group to fight Hezbollah... and there's numerous rebel factions like the Arny of Mujahedeen which was formed to fight ISIL presence and the Islamic Front which shifted combat focus to ISIS for a bit if I'm not mistaken...But I haven't heard anything about an inter Islamic State civil war.Yeah, this is hypothetical. IS does have big divisions within its different ethnic communities. Like how there is a hierarchy of Iraqis at top, then Syrians, then other Middle Eastern Arabs, then North Africans, then everyone else. Big divisions over spoils of war between those communities. But saying that IS hasn't launched a successful offensive since October last year, there aren't many spoils to fight over now.The US has kind of obliterated its vehicle fleet which is what gave it such an overwhelming edge over other Syrian rebels and the Iraqi Army.Well, I'd reckon then that barring western intervention, the Iraqi branch could dig in better and secure themselves against Iraqi army, Kurdish fighters, and Syrian IS attacks while the Syrian side of things has to deal with more effective armies.
Quote from: Forgewolf on March 09, 2015, 09:33:47 PMAnd then we'll slip through the cracks > : )Who is this "we" you speak of?
Just so you know the SAA has taken ground against ISIS, basically as Daesh is retreating the YPG and SAA have been running to different cities to lay claim to them. And mainly crushing small Daesh resistance. ISIS is more or less dead now.In Iraq they will fall, in Syria well they will be destroyed by both rebels and SAA.Why?Well Deir-e-Azor is the greatest example of the SAA holding of and beating the Daesh forces, while in the east in places like Aleppo, the rebel factions have grown stronger and more let me say effective. Nusra has been leading charges and making progress though in some places it has been the other way around. While IF has become quite strong and has not really shown it's true strength. Ahrar Al Sham i believe is one of the groups that has one of the most effective groups.As far as i know Daesh is dead especially with the hit squads hunting their leadership and the dismantling of their whole doctrine. The real fight i see right now is between the IF and it's allies and SAA and it's allies. YPG and the Kurds for now are not facing the heat but if things cool down and SAA finishes the encirclement of Aleppo which has had many setbacks recently, they could face some heat.
Quote from: Risay117 on March 10, 2015, 12:13:10 AMJust so you know the SAA has taken ground against ISIS, basically as Daesh is retreating the YPG and SAA have been running to different cities to lay claim to them. And mainly crushing small Daesh resistance. ISIS is more or less dead now.In Iraq they will fall, in Syria well they will be destroyed by both rebels and SAA.Why?Well Deir-e-Azor is the greatest example of the SAA holding of and beating the Daesh forces, while in the east in places like Aleppo, the rebel factions have grown stronger and more let me say effective. Nusra has been leading charges and making progress though in some places it has been the other way around. While IF has become quite strong and has not really shown it's true strength. Ahrar Al Sham i believe is one of the groups that has one of the most effective groups.As far as i know Daesh is dead especially with the hit squads hunting their leadership and the dismantling of their whole doctrine. The real fight i see right now is between the IF and it's allies and SAA and it's allies. YPG and the Kurds for now are not facing the heat but if things cool down and SAA finishes the encirclement of Aleppo which has had many setbacks recently, they could face some heat.Eh, if this were last month, I'd say that the siege of Aleppo would have been inevitable, but now it's really not looking so hot for them. Unless the Iranians intervene (again), deSyracuse's prediction of Aleppo being under siege by June is going to be smashed back into Sheikh Najjar. Though I do agree that IS is going nowhere. Their organization is starting to tear itself to shreds whether it's from internal divisions, or massive amounts of infiltrators. I don't think they've really gained ground anywhere since November.Ahrar al-Sham does have some rumors circulating around it that they're next in the USA's sights after IS and JaN, so there's some bad news. Do you know if any of the rumors of JaN leaving al-Qaeda have any amount of truth as well? I've seen nothing but extremely conflicting reports.
Quote from: GethKhilafah on March 10, 2015, 12:19:49 AMQuote from: Risay117 on March 10, 2015, 12:13:10 AMJust so you know the SAA has taken ground against ISIS, basically as Daesh is retreating the YPG and SAA have been running to different cities to lay claim to them. And mainly crushing small Daesh resistance. ISIS is more or less dead now.In Iraq they will fall, in Syria well they will be destroyed by both rebels and SAA.Why?Well Deir-e-Azor is the greatest example of the SAA holding of and beating the Daesh forces, while in the east in places like Aleppo, the rebel factions have grown stronger and more let me say effective. Nusra has been leading charges and making progress though in some places it has been the other way around. While IF has become quite strong and has not really shown it's true strength. Ahrar Al Sham i believe is one of the groups that has one of the most effective groups.As far as i know Daesh is dead especially with the hit squads hunting their leadership and the dismantling of their whole doctrine. The real fight i see right now is between the IF and it's allies and SAA and it's allies. YPG and the Kurds for now are not facing the heat but if things cool down and SAA finishes the encirclement of Aleppo which has had many setbacks recently, they could face some heat.Eh, if this were last month, I'd say that the siege of Aleppo would have been inevitable, but now it's really not looking so hot for them. Unless the Iranians intervene (again), deSyracuse's prediction of Aleppo being under siege by June is going to be smashed back into Sheikh Najjar. Though I do agree that IS is going nowhere. Their organization is starting to tear itself to shreds whether it's from internal divisions, or massive amounts of infiltrators. I don't think they've really gained ground anywhere since November.Ahrar al-Sham does have some rumors circulating around it that they're next in the USA's sights after IS and JaN, so there's some bad news. Do you know if any of the rumors of JaN leaving al-Qaeda have any amount of truth as well? I've seen nothing but extremely conflicting reports.Well first point is yeah, the Aleppo encirclement was a failure, but there is still expectations something may happen in the future. I feel like if the East and Deir-e-Azor open up and the pressure is released from there the Golden Brigade may be shifted to Aleppo. There has been a move if i remember correctly of troops to the Aleppo area as well as a surge of Hezbollah soldiers.For me the biggest question is has there been an increase or surge of troops in and around Aleppo and if so is there a new offensive on the horizon. Also could the Rebels make the same mistake and push too far too fast thus not reinforcing their positions and getting caught off guard if a new offensive begins. Another issue is that the recent failure can also be attributed to the absence of air support, so could the next time around, when the counter-counter-offensive begins could the air power change the game and solidify results.Right now fighting for Baskouy village:YouTubeLatest Map:LinkLast i heard was that all reports of Nusra leaving Al-Qaeda has been false. That is the official statement so far.Anyway 12 at night here will talk tomorrow.