Well shit.

As new details are revealed in the investigation of the Islamic State (ISIS) terror cell in Hevron, security officials estimate that hundreds of Hamas terrorists are leaving the "moderate" terrorist group in favor of ISIS to wage war on Israel - and the Palestinian Authority (PA).

The leader of the Hevron ISIS cell, Ahmed Wadah Salah Shehada (22), admitted under Israel Security Agency (ISA, or Shin Bet) investigation that he switched from Hamas to ISIS in recent years because it was too "moderate" for him, in that Hamas didn't compel Sharia Islamic law, reports Channel 2.

Reportedly the security system assesses that hundreds of other terrorists have made the move to ISIS like Shehada, and are in contact with the terrorist organization through online social media.

"This cell was just the tip of the iceberg," a security source was quoted as saying. "There are terrorists who are tired of Hamas because it is portrayed as moderate and not aggressive and extremist enough against Israel."

He continued "there they see ISIS as an organization that implements the Islamic laws - Sharia. Hamas is under great pressure from this phenomenon which is slowly eating into its power. ISIS is entering into this vacuum."

Indeed, ISIS already reportedly has a foothold in Gaza where it took an active part in last summer's terror war against Israel, and where it claimed a bombing attack on the French Cultural Center last October.

Already as of last October 30 Arab citizens of Israel had reportedly joined ISIS.

ISA has cyber units working around the clock to locate the new ISIS cells online and take them out before they take lethal action against Israeli targets. However, some would argue Israel isn't taking stringent enough counter-measures; an Arab citizen of Israel was given a temporary permit to return to Israel on Wednesday after leaving to join ISIS in Syria.

Recruiting for ISIS in Israel - on Facebook

New details of how ISIS's hold in Israel is being expanded were revealed in the ISA investigation of the terror cell in Hevron that was nabbed last November, details which were recently published.

In investigation, the cell leader Shehada admitted "it started around a year ago. I contacted Al-Nusra Front and ISIS activists through their Facebook pages."

"My intention was to join them in the fighting in Syria, against the (Bashar) Assad regime. After several talks that I had with my friends in Hevron, I decided not to fly there, and (instead) establish an ISIS cell in Hevron," said Shehada.

"Our goal was to establish a cell that would conduct attacks against the IDF and the Palestinian Authority," said Shehada, noting that Israel wasn't the only target. "We understood that Hamas isn't doing the job. We downloaded from the ISIS site posters and pictures and distributed them to residents."

That recruitment also included indoctrination and propaganda through Facebook, he admitted, while noting his cell's goal was to abduct and murder an IDF soldier during the Muslim month of Ramadan.

"The plan was to take (a soldier's) rifle, to hide his body in a water hole and to take his uniform to conduct a shooting attack against soldiers," said Shehada.

He revealed that one night as the three-man cell conducted surveillance runs around Hevron armed with a rope to tie up a soldier, "we saw a soldier who said 'good night' to us, but we went home without abducting him."

Speaking about the switch to Hamas, another cell member said "we believe that ISIS is better than Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, who don't do anything for the residents."

"We held a few meetings in Hevron, with the goal being to acquire rifles and pipe bombs that we could use against soldiers and Palestinian police stations in Bab el-Alzawiya," he said. "We looked at all kinds of websites and learned how to produce pipe bombs."

I really hope this doesn't grow. Moving away from a quasi-nationalistic and towards a hardline Salafist motivation will make it even harder to establish a two-state solution.

With any luck ISIS will be targeting the Israelis

Careful. Sounds like you're saying you prefer ISIS to the Israelis.

Quote from: Kiyohime on January 09, 2015, 12:13:37 PM

With any luck ISIS will be targeting the Israelis

Careful. Sounds like you're saying you prefer ISIS to the Israelis.

Not at all.

Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 10, 2015, 07:11:20 AM

Quote from: Kiyohime on January 09, 2015, 12:13:37 PM

With any luck ISIS will be targeting the Israelis instead of other Palestinians, though given the volatile nature of ISIS it's most likely they will turn on the Palestinians. Still hoping for the former though.

I'm really beginning to think you were molested by a Jew during your childhood or something.

It's just irrational hatred. Put her in the shoes of those she hates so much, and then she'd gain understanding after suffering what they suffer and experiencing what they experience.

Because instead of them just being people in her eyes, they're "Jews" or "Israelis" and she has all these prejudices against them.

It's very depressing there are so many people like Kiyo.

Israelis aren't the ones suffering. Believe what you like however.

Israelis aren't the ones suffering. Believe what you like however.

They would be, if the Palestinians had their way.

Also yes, despite being monstrously big-nosed, economy-crashing bankers, the Israeli Jews are capable of suffering. Much like that family who were murdered--including the children--wherein something like 32pc of Palestinians supported it.

Which I still haven't seen you condemn them for, despite your posting of the Israelis chanting about dead children.

Israel is happy to wipe them out.

Why haven't they done that, then? They're clearly in a position to, considering how powerful they are compared to the likes of Hamas or even the Palestinian Authority. Why, if Israel is so happy to wipe them out, did they leave them a rich infrastructure in greenhouses during the disengagement to help their economy? If this is all Israel's fault, why did Yasser Arafat do nothing about the Hamas suicide bombings, which were expressly prohibited under the Oslo Accords?

Quote from: Kiyohime on January 10, 2015, 09:31:34 AM

So I guess the Palestinian Jews in Gaza are just what?

I'm more interested in the Palestinians in Israel, you know the ones who can vote and sit in the Knesset? There's even one on the Supreme Court.

That's some sneaky fucking oppression, there.

You mean the ones treated like second class citizens?

Quote from: Kiyohime on January 10, 2015, 09:35:48 AM

You mean the ones treated like second class citizens?

The same ones who expressly refused citizenship and the right to vote, when Israel annexed the Golan Heights, of their own free will?

Yeah, those ones.

And there's your answer

Quote from: Kiyohime on January 10, 2015, 09:23:40 AM

Quote from: challengerX on January 10, 2015, 07:16:28 AM

Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 10, 2015, 07:11:20 AM

Quote from: Kiyohime on January 09, 2015, 12:13:37 PM

With any luck ISIS will be targeting the Israelis instead of other Palestinians, though given the volatile nature of ISIS it's most likely they will turn on the Palestinians. Still hoping for the former though.

I'm really beginning to think you were molested by a Jew during your childhood or something.

It's just irrational hatred. Put her in the shoes of those she hates so much, and then she'd gain understanding after suffering what they suffer and experiencing what they experience.

Because instead of them just being people in her eyes, they're "Jews" or "Israelis" and she has all these prejudices against them.

It's very depressing there are so many people like Kiyo.

Israelis aren't the ones suffering. Believe what you like however.

A mother who lost her child in an attack from Hamas isn't suffering?

Bitch please.

Because that outweighs the hundreds of children Israel leaves dead.

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 10, 2015, 09:38:13 AM

Quote from: Kiyohime on January 10, 2015, 09:35:48 AM

You mean the ones treated like second class citizens?

The same ones who expressly refused citizenship and the right to vote, when Israel annexed the Golan Heights, of their own free will?

Yeah, those ones.

And there's your answer

. . .

So Israel is full of big, bad motherfuckers because a bunch of Palestinians voluntarily refused citizenship? What the fuck have you been smoking?

Come back to the convo when you're educated on the matter.

I really don't know how I can gently tell you that you shouldn't be even allowed in Serious.

You do this every fucking time, just because you're too ignorant when it comes to the topic at hand to have a proper discussion or defend your viewpoint. I don't think anybody would disagree with me (even if they still think Israel are worse) when I say that I have far outperformed you in literally every discussion we've had about this.

Israel annexed the Golan Heights, by the way, during the Six-day War. When they were simultaneously attacked by five Arab nations.

I'm simply not interested in having debates.

Stop doing it then. Not having an interest isn't an excuse; it doesn't wipe away somebody's lack of awareness about an issue. If you truly don't have that much of an interests in the whole situation, you shouldn't be formulating opinions and then calling people uneducated when they disagree.