If You’re White, Should You be Paying to Compensate Blacks For Slavery?

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"You're white, therefore you should be paying reparations to compensate blacks for slavery."

Anyone who makes that extremely American-centric statement is a fucking idiot for two reasons.

1. Not everyone who is white in America has ancestry from slave owners.

2. You are not responsible for the actions of those who came before you.
  2a. Descendants of enslaved people in this day and age are not being adversely affected in any way.

As some of you may know, I am from Russia. I was not born in America nor do I have any ancestors from America. Yet somehow social justice warriors tell me that I, the white man am personally responsible for slavery and that I should pay for it, despite me/my ancestors having nothing to do with the American slave trade.

Of course, social justice warriors are flawed in their thinking most of the time and generally aren't to be taken seriously, but I hear normal people around me repeating the sentiment that white = responsible for slavery and it's fucking ridiculous.

Plus, even if my ancestors were slave owners in America, what difference does it make to you? You're not being affected by me and I don't owe you shit just because your ancestors were enslaved. You're not enslaved now, so shut the fuck up. You live in a developed country. You don't really have much to complain about, so you find stupid shit to complain about instead.

In short, why are people so fucking stupid?


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"The sins of my father are not my own" is highly relevant here.

Listen, slavery was shitty. In fact, it contributed to the socio-economic problems that a lot of black Americans still experience. But I don't think compensation for something your ancestors went through is the way to go about making up for slavery.


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"The sins of my father are not my own" is highly relevant here.

Listen, slavery was shitty. In fact, it contributed to the socio-economic problems that a lot of black Americans still experience. But I don't think compensation for something your ancestors went through is the way to go about making up for slavery.

Of course, the quote there is essentially what I said.


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No one denies slavery was one of the most abhorrent conducts to have occurred during human history. That being said, anyone that genuinely thinks the entirety of white people TODAY should have to correct or atone for what a few assholes did 300 years ago is pretty much the epitome of autism.
Last Edit: October 21, 2014, 11:37:53 AM by Madman Mordo


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Absolutely.

They should get a portion of every white mans paycheck.

Oh wait, welfare.....nvm.


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Absolutely.

They should get a portion of every white mans paycheck.

Oh wait, welfare.....nvm.

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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
So should I ask for compensation from English people for controlling my country for 800 years, or the Scandinavians for raping and pillaging monasteries that my ancestry might have been involved with a millennium ago?

I think not, and it's the same principle. The people that tried to convince you that, OP, are frankly retarded.
Last Edit: October 21, 2014, 03:11:06 PM by SuperIrish


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My ancestors were in Ireland until the 1920's and then were treated just as bad as blacks. Were's my government compensation?


 
 
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ayy lmao
I don't think that anyone actually says that.


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No, that is utterly retarded.

Read the OP. It's like a majority of you only go off of the post title alone.
Last Edit: October 22, 2014, 03:40:43 PM by TheOneTrueDesticle


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"The sins of my father are not my own" is highly relevant here.

Listen, slavery was shitty. In fact, it contributed to the socio-economic problems that a lot of black Americans still experience. But I don't think compensation for something your ancestors went through is the way to go about making up for slavery.
Also the funny thing is i bet one of their ancestors up the line also did these kind of things. Everyone has a slave owner ancestor in their family tree even Africans, Arabs, Chinese etc.


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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?


 
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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
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White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa


 
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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
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White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Wait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?

I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.


 
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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
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White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Wait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?

I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.
No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.
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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
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White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Wait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?

I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.
No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.

About 1 million Europeans were captured from that iirc and even then its not like Europeans were specifically targeted. Those fuckers were grabbing slaves from wherever they could find them.

People usually like to point to the Moors when they talk about African on European slavery since they were much more significant.


 
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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
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White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Wait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?

I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.
No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.

About 1 million Europeans were captured from that iirc and even then its not like Europeans were specifically targeted. Those frackers were grabbing slaves from wherever they could find them.

People usually like to point to the Moors when they talk about African on European slavery since they were much more significant.
Actually the last I read about it, at least 1.2 million European were enslaved. On top of that, I believed they specifically targeted Europeans because I'm not familiar with any accounts of them attacking and capturing ships from the Ottomans or any other non-European coastal area. On top of that, Barbary slaves have gone as far north as Iceland  to capture people


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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
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White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Wait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?

I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.
No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.
Yes, but most weren't captured in North Africa. They were primarily grabbed from coastal towns and villages of European nations. Although a good amount of sailors traveling near North Africa were converted to slaves.

A lot of slaves were taken by the Moors from Spain in raids which were part of the Barbary Slavs trade too.
I know they weren't captured in Africa. They were taken from shipping routes, coastal areas, and even went up north to Iceland and Scotland


 
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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
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White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Wait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?

I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.
No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.

About 1 million Europeans were captured from that iirc and even then its not like Europeans were specifically targeted. Those frackers were grabbing slaves from wherever they could find them.

People usually like to point to the Moors when they talk about African on European slavery since they were much more significant.
Actually the last I read about it, at least 1.2 million European were enslaved. On top of that, I believed they specifically targeted Europeans because I'm not familiar with any accounts of them attacking and capturing ships from the Ottomans or any other non-European coastal area. On top of that, Barbary slaves have gone as far north as Iceland  to capture people

They also participated quite heavily in the Arab slave trade and even went into South American to grab them.


 
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And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Arabs aren't white.
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White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Wait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?

I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.
No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.
Yes, but most weren't captured in North Africa. They were primarily grabbed from coastal towns and villages of European nations. Although a good amount of sailors traveling near North Africa were converted to slaves.

A lot of slaves were taken by the Moors from Spain in raids which were part of the Barbary Slavs trade too.
I know they weren't captured in Africa. They were taken from shipping routes, coastal areas, and even went up north to Iceland and Scotland
That's why I was confused as to what you were talking about when you said "along North Africa".
Ah. My fault for that


 
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The juice is loose.
We don't need to be compensated. Granted slsvery and segregation had put a lot of black people in a hard socioeconomic place, it would be... I guess pointless and miss directed if modern whites compensated us for something they didn't do.
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Absolutely.

They should get a portion of every white mans paycheck.

Oh wait, welfare.....nvm.
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