"The sins of my father are not my own" is highly relevant here.Listen, slavery was shitty. In fact, it contributed to the socio-economic problems that a lot of black Americans still experience. But I don't think compensation for something your ancestors went through is the way to go about making up for slavery.
Absolutely.They should get a portion of every white mans paycheck. Oh wait, welfare.....nvm.
No, that is utterly retarded.
Quote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:52:00 PMAnd what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?Arabs aren't white.
And what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?
Quote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:59:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 05:57:55 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:52:00 PMAnd what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?Arabs aren't white.......White people were enslaved by the peoples along North AfricaWait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?
Quote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 05:57:55 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:52:00 PMAnd what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?Arabs aren't white.......White people were enslaved by the peoples along North Africa
Quote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 06:01:46 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:59:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 05:57:55 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:52:00 PMAnd what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?Arabs aren't white.......White people were enslaved by the peoples along North AfricaWait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.
Quote from: Lord Commissar on October 21, 2014, 06:05:31 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 06:01:46 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:59:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 05:57:55 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:52:00 PMAnd what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?Arabs aren't white.......White people were enslaved by the peoples along North AfricaWait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.
Quote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 06:08:12 PMQuote from: Lord Commissar on October 21, 2014, 06:05:31 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 06:01:46 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:59:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 05:57:55 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:52:00 PMAnd what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?Arabs aren't white.......White people were enslaved by the peoples along North AfricaWait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.About 1 million Europeans were captured from that iirc and even then its not like Europeans were specifically targeted. Those frackers were grabbing slaves from wherever they could find them.People usually like to point to the Moors when they talk about African on European slavery since they were much more significant.
Quote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 06:08:12 PMQuote from: Lord Commissar on October 21, 2014, 06:05:31 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 06:01:46 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:59:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 05:57:55 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:52:00 PMAnd what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?Arabs aren't white.......White people were enslaved by the peoples along North AfricaWait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.Yes, but most weren't captured in North Africa. They were primarily grabbed from coastal towns and villages of European nations. Although a good amount of sailors traveling near North Africa were converted to slaves. A lot of slaves were taken by the Moors from Spain in raids which were part of the Barbary Slavs trade too.
Quote from: Lord Commissar on October 21, 2014, 06:16:25 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 06:08:12 PMQuote from: Lord Commissar on October 21, 2014, 06:05:31 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 06:01:46 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:59:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 05:57:55 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:52:00 PMAnd what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?Arabs aren't white.......White people were enslaved by the peoples along North AfricaWait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.About 1 million Europeans were captured from that iirc and even then its not like Europeans were specifically targeted. Those frackers were grabbing slaves from wherever they could find them.People usually like to point to the Moors when they talk about African on European slavery since they were much more significant.Actually the last I read about it, at least 1.2 million European were enslaved. On top of that, I believed they specifically targeted Europeans because I'm not familiar with any accounts of them attacking and capturing ships from the Ottomans or any other non-European coastal area. On top of that, Barbary slaves have gone as far north as Iceland to capture people
Quote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 06:22:42 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 06:18:10 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 06:08:12 PMQuote from: Lord Commissar on October 21, 2014, 06:05:31 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 06:01:46 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:59:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 05:57:55 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:52:00 PMAnd what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?Arabs aren't white.......White people were enslaved by the peoples along North AfricaWait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.Yes, but most weren't captured in North Africa. They were primarily grabbed from coastal towns and villages of European nations. Although a good amount of sailors traveling near North Africa were converted to slaves. A lot of slaves were taken by the Moors from Spain in raids which were part of the Barbary Slavs trade too.I know they weren't captured in Africa. They were taken from shipping routes, coastal areas, and even went up north to Iceland and ScotlandThat's why I was confused as to what you were talking about when you said "along North Africa".
Quote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 06:18:10 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 06:08:12 PMQuote from: Lord Commissar on October 21, 2014, 06:05:31 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 06:01:46 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:59:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 21, 2014, 05:57:55 PMQuote from: Kinder on October 21, 2014, 05:52:00 PMAnd what of the million+ whites that were enslaved along North Africa?Arabs aren't white.......White people were enslaved by the peoples along North AfricaWait, are you saying whites enslaved by Arabs in North Africa?I think he's referring to the moors who came up from Morocco and took over Spain and parts of France.No, I'm referencing the Barbary Slave Trade that flourished between the 16th and 19th centuries in places like Libya, Algiers, and Tunisia. Local Barbary pirates would capture Europeans that were primarily traveling in the Med.Yes, but most weren't captured in North Africa. They were primarily grabbed from coastal towns and villages of European nations. Although a good amount of sailors traveling near North Africa were converted to slaves. A lot of slaves were taken by the Moors from Spain in raids which were part of the Barbary Slavs trade too.I know they weren't captured in Africa. They were taken from shipping routes, coastal areas, and even went up north to Iceland and Scotland