the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
True, but the book itself is utter crap.It reads like a brick and would be better used as paper mache.But, books are sacred and defiling them is haram >____>Even if the content is tripe.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on December 08, 2014, 02:11:35 PMTrue, but the book itself is utter crap.It reads like a brick and would be better used as paper mache.But, books are sacred and defiling them is haram >____>Even if the content is tripe.Even a book that tells people how to commit murder and get away with it?
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 08, 2014, 04:36:14 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on December 08, 2014, 02:11:35 PMTrue, but the book itself is utter crap.It reads like a brick and would be better used as paper mache.But, books are sacred and defiling them is haram >____>Even if the content is tripe.Even a book that tells people how to commit murder and get away with it?Such a book would be a self defeating entity.A book on how to get away with murder would also be a book on how to catch the person trying to get away with murder.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on December 08, 2014, 04:58:37 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 08, 2014, 04:36:14 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on December 08, 2014, 02:11:35 PMTrue, but the book itself is utter crap.It reads like a brick and would be better used as paper mache.But, books are sacred and defiling them is haram >____>Even if the content is tripe.Even a book that tells people how to commit murder and get away with it?Such a book would be a self defeating entity.A book on how to get away with murder would also be a book on how to catch the person trying to get away with murder.Books also allow a person to think "Hm, let me try this but in a different way", thus making changes that other readers can't keep up with . Checkmate
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 08, 2014, 04:36:14 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on December 08, 2014, 02:11:35 PMTrue, but the book itself is utter crap.It reads like a brick and would be better used as paper mache.But, books are sacred and defiling them is haram >____>Even if the content is tripe.Even a book that tells people how to commit murder and get away with it?Should guns be banned because they can be used as tools for murder?
Quote from: RC5908 on December 08, 2014, 05:55:41 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 08, 2014, 04:36:14 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on December 08, 2014, 02:11:35 PMTrue, but the book itself is utter crap.It reads like a brick and would be better used as paper mache.But, books are sacred and defiling them is haram >____>Even if the content is tripe.Even a book that tells people how to commit murder and get away with it?Should guns be banned because they can be used as tools for murder?Yes.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on December 08, 2014, 05:39:10 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 08, 2014, 05:01:29 PMThat's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.It doesn't really value the democratic process at all if it resorts to the censorship of material it doesn't like.Fascism isn't material we don't like. It's a serious threat to democracy and books like that can give kids the wrong idea. It's a book written by a madman promoting his bullshit ideals. It's not like we're writing textbooks omitting that part of history, we're just banning a disgusting book.
Quote from: challengerX on December 08, 2014, 05:01:29 PMThat's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.It doesn't really value the democratic process at all if it resorts to the censorship of material it doesn't like.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on December 08, 2014, 06:08:48 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 08, 2014, 06:06:42 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 08, 2014, 05:39:10 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 08, 2014, 05:01:29 PMThat's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.It doesn't really value the democratic process at all if it resorts to the censorship of material it doesn't like.Fascism isn't material we don't like. It's a serious threat to democracy and books like that can give kids the wrong idea. It's a book written by a madman promoting his bullshit ideals. It's not like we're writing textbooks omitting that part of history, we're just banning a disgusting book. Then you already are a fascist society at that point you dip. Banning literature and art because you don't like what it stands for is kind of how fascism works. It's irony at its finest.No it isn't. If some guy wants to write a book promoting fascism, it shouldn't be allowed to be publicized. Fascism is a plague and needs to be eradicated. You can be a hippie all you like and call it "suppression of ideas", but it's suppression of fascism. It goes directly against our way of life.
Quote from: challengerX on December 08, 2014, 06:06:42 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on December 08, 2014, 05:39:10 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 08, 2014, 05:01:29 PMThat's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.It doesn't really value the democratic process at all if it resorts to the censorship of material it doesn't like.Fascism isn't material we don't like. It's a serious threat to democracy and books like that can give kids the wrong idea. It's a book written by a madman promoting his bullshit ideals. It's not like we're writing textbooks omitting that part of history, we're just banning a disgusting book. Then you already are a fascist society at that point you dip. Banning literature and art because you don't like what it stands for is kind of how fascism works. It's irony at its finest.
It goes directly against our way of life
it shouldn't be allowed to be publicized
Quote from: TrussingDoor on December 08, 2014, 05:33:13 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 08, 2014, 05:01:29 PMThat's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.Clearly not, if one book is all it takes for your culture to descend into fascism, so much so that it must be banned. If it's that easy, I think this society's values lie elsewhere.In fact, I would call the suppression of ideas very un-democratic.Don't twist things. Suppression of fascism is not suppression of ideas. And there's no slippery slope effect either. Fascism is a very clear and serious danger to democracy and freedom. If censoring a book written by a madman that promotes fascism is fascism to you, then you're living in some sort of topsy turvy world.
Quote from: challengerX on December 08, 2014, 05:01:29 PMThat's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.Clearly not, if one book is all it takes for your culture to descend into fascism, so much so that it must be banned. If it's that easy, I think this society's values lie elsewhere.In fact, I would call the suppression of ideas very un-democratic.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on December 08, 2014, 05:56:22 PMQuote from: RC5908 on December 08, 2014, 05:55:41 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 08, 2014, 04:36:14 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on December 08, 2014, 02:11:35 PMTrue, but the book itself is utter crap.It reads like a brick and would be better used as paper mache.But, books are sacred and defiling them is haram >____>Even if the content is tripe.Even a book that tells people how to commit murder and get away with it?Should guns be banned because they can be used as tools for murder?Yes.Should cheeseburgers be banned because they can be abused by fat people? *cough cough*