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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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EVERYTHING SHOULD CEASE TO EXIST BECAUSE LIFE ISN'T PERFECT AND PEOPLE SUFFER

Unless we're mutilating infants' genitals, then it's fine because they won't remember it.
Yeah.

what was the point of that exactly
That even you don't believe in antinatalism.
keep proving my point


 
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EVERYTHING SHOULD CEASE TO EXIST BECAUSE LIFE ISN'T PERFECT AND PEOPLE SUFFER

Unless we're mutilating infants' genitals, then it's fine because they won't remember it.
Yeah.

what was the point of that exactly
That even you don't believe in antinatalism.
keep proving my point
Prove you're an antinatalist.
why would i do that when you don't even have a mature, adult grasp of what anti-natalism even is

hint: it has absolutely nothing to do with circumcision


 
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all suffering is bad
i've never said this in my entire life though

all gratuitous suffering that is not made up for by something, or is not made worth it by something, is bad

that's what i've been arguing since day 1--all suffering can be justified if you have a good enough reason

so, take the suffering of circumcision
- you won't remember it at all
- you get a kick-ass penis out of it

Worth it.

circumcision is only bad at the moment because it's not guaranteed to be complication-free
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You have. Many, many times.
uh, no

and if i have, you probably just didn't understand it, because your brain oversimplified the message (like a 4 year old)

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LOL COMPLETE 180
uhhhhhhhhhh

no

not even a 10
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You'd always say the fact that suffering is important is the reason we shouldn't exist and why life is terrible.
yes

and?

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This is the first time I hear you say suffering is justified.
then you've literally never had an actual conversation with me about this subject, and you really DO have a 4 year old's perception of my philosophy

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Rape feels good for me so as long as I drug the girl it's all good.
what the fuck are you on about


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Your insecurity is showing.
how is being aware that i have a factually superior penis insecure

do you think i'm talking about how it looks?

i never have to put in the extra effort to clean it

do you know how awesome that is

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No it's bad because it's a barbaric practice that has no benefits other than not washing your penis when you take a shower.
"it has no benefits, except for this one supremely kick-ass benefit"


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
——Carmen
If I had the means, sure.

Concepts and ideas exist. Just because something isn't tangible doesn't mean it's not real.
So, you would help one person if it meant subjecting 1000s of others to suffering?
What? How does the fact that I would help a kid escape from some sweatshop cause more suffering?
the ones who walk away from omelas is a story about a utopian society is only able to keep its utopian state due to one child suffering.
Oh, I didn't know you changed the topic, never heard of that movie. And yes, I would absolutely save that child. A utopia that thrives off of someone eternally suffering isn't a utopia, and has no right to exist, regardless of how good it is.
So you would let thousands of people suffer rather than just one person suffer? Yeah, that sure seems like the more moral option.
If the child being free causes everyone to suffer the same amount that the child did, then the moral option would be for them all to die.


 
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Nope, you've definitely said this many times. "ALL SUFFERING IS BAD AND THE FACT THAT SUFFERING IS VALUABLE IS WRONG"
nope, that's just what your 4 year old brain simplified it to

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180
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Exactly, you see suffering as never justified.
nope

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No you're just a hypocrite.
so you don't know what that word means, either

thing is though, you're wrong--you had the wrong idea about my philosophy this whole time, because you're an illiterate fucking idiot, apparently

good job

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As long as suffering isn't remembered it's fine according to you.
nope, that's not enough

if circumcision didn't give you a kick-ass penis, which it does, not remembering the suffering wouldn't be enough justification

it's just one little justification--that's not enough

do you know how math works


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I honestly feel bad for you guys, you go into this super insecure beta mode anytime this discussion comes up.
except i'm not insecure

i'm just aware that i have a better penis than people who aren't circumcised

it's just a fact

2+2=4
i guess i'm insecure, because i just stated a fact

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You can't spend 3 seconds cleaning your penis to avoid torturing infants?

Wow.
it's not 3 seconds


 
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You either die a hero or live long enough to become Mythic..
Verb's philosophy is not something I agree with...


And Challenger is being a dumbass....

Who do I root for honestly?


 
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Verb's philosophy is not something I agree with...


And Challenger is being a dumbass....

Who do I root for honestly?
Jesus


 
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You either die a hero or live long enough to become Mythic..
Verb's philosophy is not something I agree with...


And Challenger is being a dumbass....

Who do I root for honestly?
Jesus

They both need Jesus


 
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I love how you aren't posting any actual arguments and you're just saying "nope ur an idiot lel I never said any of that stuff I said"
lmao what the fuck "arguments" can i make to what you're accusing me of

the only thing i can do is say, no, i never said that, because i never did

any time i ever used the words "suffering is bad," the implication is that the suffering was not justified

if you couldn't glean that from what i've been saying over the past 3 years, you're illiterate

especially because i've already clarified it on numerous occasions

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yup
nope

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yup
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LOL
your ignorance is pretty funny, yeah

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no YOU'RE a dumbhead
no but seriously

fucking ask anybody i've ever had an in-depth conversation about anti-natalism with

they know my stance on suffering, and that i believe it can be justified, given a good enough reason

the reason i want the human race to go extinct is because i don't believe the net suffering has been justified at all

we live for iphones and mcdonald's and money and sports and bullshit and masturbation
and all this stuff comes to a huge cost

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hahahaha what the hell is this incoherent rambling
more illiteracy

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LMAO Nobody ever says anything about your penis and you always come out super defensive talking about how amazing your penis is. That's the height of insecurity.
no, not MY penis--circumcised penises in general

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OH NO IT MIGHT BE MORE
enough to make it worth it

also it looks way better too LMAO
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You're just denying it. You've said that countless times, it was always your stance. I remember because I'd say "we gain things through suffering" and you'd reply "and that's bullshit, suffering isn't justified because we gain things through it, we shouldn't have to suffer". That's your stance.
no, what i was saying was that there's hardly anything that we gain through suffering that makes the suffering worth it

if i had a break my arm to find the cure for cancer, well, i guess i'd have to take one for the team--that would make the suffering worth it, for sure

but an ethiopian child starving because there's literally no food or water where he's at?
there is NO justification

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So because we're at a point where our technology and intelligence is enough to barely make a difference we should give up?
I would argue that we can't make a difference, and even if we could, it would be pointless.

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Gee I guess if I was an Orc I'd agree with you, but fucking wow. Even you don't believe this, you're just disagreeing out of pride and insecurity, deep down you can't handle that your penis is messed up. It's a tough pill to swallow. Lots of veterans commit suicide due to their genitals being gone as a cause of explosion/other.
what is this incoherent rambling
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nope

i heard you did a 180 on the whole being a pig rapist thing, though

congrats--i'm so happy that you're no longer a pig rapist

you don't rape pigs anymore

that's not something that you do, but did before, because i said so
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That's your incorrect view on life due to depression.
that is your incorrect view of life due to stupidity, and a lack of life experience

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Almost no circumcised man will openly say they're unhappy with the circumcision. It's a tough thing to accept.
almost no uncircumcised man will openly say that they want to be circumcised

it's a tough thing to accept


 
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LOL

You actually said it, though. That's the difference.
yeah, i actually said it

and you actually misinterpreted it

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Except you're very likely clinically depressed, which is why you view life the way you do.
i'm not denying that i'm depressed

let's say i get better though

do you really think i'm just going to change my mind and stop being an anti-natalsit

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Because I prefer to not have people take a knife to my penis.
which is why it would've been better for you to have had it done as an infant, so you wouldn't remember (or even be fully cognizant of) the pain

and now you're jealous
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I see no difference between creating an AI and creating a human. I'd rather not be a parent, so no.


 
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There's only one way to interpret "suffering is never justified".
if you're really really bad at reading between the lines


 
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There's only one way to interpret "suffering is never justified".
if you're really really bad at reading between the lines
nev·er
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at no time in the past or future; on no occasion; not ever.
intelligent people know not to take everything literally


 
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That's the only way to interpret the word "never".
if you suck at reading between lines and thinking critically and not taking things literally

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If you've changed your stance
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to one that can accept suffering is necessary and justified in some cases, how much of an antinatalist really are you at this point?
as much of an anti-natalist as any logical person can be

because you still cannot justify having children to me

what kind of question is that
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