If you're not even willing to consider the possibility of Trump being benevolent

Verbatim · November 13, 2016, 03:56:59 PM

Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:54:22 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:50:30 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:31:39 PM
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LMFAO

Hey Verbatim. I voted for Donald Trump. What are you gonna do about it?
Everything in my power to defy his stupid ass.
LMAO
Also fantasize about starting a Trump supporter holocaust.
Only in your dreams Verbatim.

Uh, yeah. That's why I used the word "fantasize."

🂿 · November 13, 2016, 03:59:41 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:56:59 PM

Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:50:30 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
LMFAO

Hey Verbatim. I voted for Donald Trump. What are you gonna do about it?
Everything in my power to defy his stupid ass.
LMAO
Also fantasize about starting a Trump supporter holocaust.
Only in your dreams Verbatim.

Uh, yeah. That's why I used the word "fantasize."

Fantasize all you want. It will never be a reality.

Verbatim · November 13, 2016, 04:00:38 PM

Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:59:41 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:50:30 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
LMFAO

Hey Verbatim. I voted for Donald Trump. What are you gonna do about it?
Everything in my power to defy his stupid ass.
LMAO
Also fantasize about starting a Trump supporter holocaust.
Only in your dreams Verbatim.

Uh, yeah. That's why I used the word "fantasize."
Fantasize all you want. It will never be a reality.

Sure it will--I just won't be the one commencing it.

🂿 · November 13, 2016, 04:01:39 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 04:00:38 PM

Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:59:41 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:56:59 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:50:30 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
LMFAO

Hey Verbatim. I voted for Donald Trump. What are you gonna do about it?
Everything in my power to defy his stupid ass.
LMAO
Also fantasize about starting a Trump supporter holocaust.
Only in your dreams Verbatim.

Uh, yeah. That's why I used the word "fantasize."
Fantasize all you want. It will never be a reality.
Sure it will--I just won't be the one commencing it.

LOL

Verbatim · November 13, 2016, 04:03:58 PM

Great contributions.

Trump supporters, be glad you have Deci on your side.

🂿 · November 13, 2016, 04:09:03 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 04:03:58 PM

Great contributions.

Trump supporters, be glad you have Deci on your side.

They are.

Verbatim · November 13, 2016, 04:11:51 PM

I bet!

Azendac · November 13, 2016, 04:30:11 PM

Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 04:09:03 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 04:03:58 PM
Great contributions.

Trump supporters, be glad you have Deci on your side.

They are.

I am.

TB · November 13, 2016, 04:31:32 PM

Oh wow your memes really have compelled me.

Alternative Facts · November 13, 2016, 04:49:51 PM

And here I thought Azendac was unbiased.

MyNameIsCharlie · November 13, 2016, 04:57:50 PM

PSU aside, do Trump supporters do anything besides posts memes?

Elai · November 13, 2016, 05:09:48 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on November 13, 2016, 04:57:50 PM

PSU aside, do Trump supporters do anything besides posts memes?

what do you mean

do clinton supports "do anything"

what is there for them to do?

The Lord Ruler · November 13, 2016, 05:47:14 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:50:30 PM

Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
LMFAO

Hey Verbatim. I voted for Donald Trump. What are you gonna do about it?
Everything in my power to defy his stupid ass.
LMAO
Also fantasize about starting a Trump supporter holocaust.

wow that's just as dumb as deci revenge masturbating to people

Verbatim · November 13, 2016, 05:49:45 PM

Quote from: The Lord Ruler on November 13, 2016, 05:47:14 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:50:30 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: Deci on November 13, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
LMFAO

Hey Verbatim. I voted for Donald Trump. What are you gonna do about it?
Everything in my power to defy his stupid ass.
LMAO
Also fantasize about starting a Trump supporter holocaust.
wow that's just as dumb as deci revenge masturbating to people

Not even close.

Azendac · November 13, 2016, 06:30:43 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 13, 2016, 04:49:51 PM

And here I thought Azendac was unbiased.

Just having a little fun here. I will be upfront about where my support lies and I'm not going to pretend I don't have strong opinions, we all have our biases after all. But I have other places I can memepost and this is the serious board afterall.

Azendac · November 13, 2016, 06:31:48 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on November 13, 2016, 04:31:32 PM

Oh wow your memes really have compelled me.

I've been trying to have a serious conversation with verb but this is the level of dialectic he operates on, get him to change and i'll adapt.

Azendac · November 13, 2016, 06:33:20 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on November 13, 2016, 04:57:50 PM

PSU aside, do Trump supporters do anything besides posts memes?

I also post my sources and and accept criticism from both sides. The most powerful man in the world wants to give Trump a chance, we can talk over the details if you'd like.

Verbatim · November 13, 2016, 06:37:09 PM

Quote from: Azendac on November 13, 2016, 06:31:48 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on November 13, 2016, 04:31:32 PM
Oh wow your memes really have compelled me.
I've been trying to have a serious conversation with verb but this is the level of dialectic he operates on, get him to change and i'll adapt.

You support Trump. There is no serious conversation to be had.

Korra · November 13, 2016, 06:37:23 PM

fantastic thread

Azendac · November 13, 2016, 06:40:18 PM

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Oh wow your memes really have compelled me.
I've been trying to have a serious conversation with verb but this is the level of dialectic he operates on, get him to change and i'll adapt.
You support Trump. There is no serious conversation to be had.

I also supported Obama both times, for much the same reasons, and seeing the president stick to his word and work peacefully with the man he has more reason than anyone else on earth to hate, has restored my opinion of him. There is a discussion if you give it a chance, i'm surrounded by people who disagree with me on just about everything but i've learned to not sperg over it.

challengerX · November 13, 2016, 08:27:40 PM

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big sponge · November 13, 2016, 08:49:02 PM

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What happens when you have a full decade dominated by right-wing policy? The Great Depression, apparently.
The Great Depression was caused almost exclusively by poor management by the Fed, established only 17 years before the stock market crash by a democratic Congress and president, and was worsened by terrible protectionist policy by the reactionary democratic Congress of the 1930s and FDR's New Deal.
Is that the historic, commonly agreed-upon conclusion, or is that your conclusion? I appreciate you chiming in, because I'm not a history buff, but I just wanna make sure I'm not being fed bullshit.

That's the conclusion from the right wing that's been pushed over the last few years.

The New Deal is commonly agreed to be one of the big things that brought the US out of the Great Depression.

Verbatim · November 13, 2016, 09:07:58 PM

Quote from: LC on November 13, 2016, 08:49:02 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: TurkTurkBangBang on November 13, 2016, 03:28:00 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:19:11 PM
What happens when you have a full decade dominated by right-wing policy? The Great Depression, apparently.
The Great Depression was caused almost exclusively by poor management by the Fed, established only 17 years before the stock market crash by a democratic Congress and president, and was worsened by terrible protectionist policy by the reactionary democratic Congress of the 1930s and FDR's New Deal.
Is that the historic, commonly agreed-upon conclusion, or is that your conclusion? I appreciate you chiming in, because I'm not a history buff, but I just wanna make sure I'm not being fed bullshit.
That's the conclusion from the right wing that's been pushed over the last few years.

The New Deal is commonly agreed to be one of the big things that brought the US out of the Great Depression.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

More Than Mortal · November 14, 2016, 06:02:08 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:19:11 PM

What happens when you have a full decade dominated by right-wing policy? The Great Depression, apparently.

No. The Gre-

Oh. Turkey already replied.

More Than Mortal · November 14, 2016, 06:10:46 AM

Quote from: LC on November 13, 2016, 08:49:02 PM

That's the conclusion from the right wing that's been pushed over the last few years.

No, it isn't. The standard explanation is passive Federal Reserve policy, combined with smaller issues like protectionism, gold flows and--yes--the New Deal as well. Wage-setting policy via NIRA significantly slowed the recovery, and the level of fiscal stimulus actually seen during the FDR years was pretty paltry.

Monetary policy was almost solely responsible for ending the Great Depression.

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The New Deal is commonly agreed to be one of the big things that brought the US out of the Great Depression.

If by "commonly agreed" you mean "shit we teach kids pre-college because we're too lazy to explain it properly" then yeah the New Deal was pretty important. If we're talking about actual empirical work, instead of what our teachers tell us, it becomes far less important.

More Than Mortal · November 14, 2016, 06:12:22 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 09:07:58 PM

Quote from: LC on November 13, 2016, 08:49:02 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: TurkTurkBangBang on November 13, 2016, 03:28:00 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:19:11 PM
What happens when you have a full decade dominated by right-wing policy? The Great Depression, apparently.
The Great Depression was caused almost exclusively by poor management by the Fed, established only 17 years before the stock market crash by a democratic Congress and president, and was worsened by terrible protectionist policy by the reactionary democratic Congress of the 1930s and FDR's New Deal.
Is that the historic, commonly agreed-upon conclusion, or is that your conclusion? I appreciate you chiming in, because I'm not a history buff, but I just wanna make sure I'm not being fed bullshit.
That's the conclusion from the right wing that's been pushed over the last few years.

The New Deal is commonly agreed to be one of the big things that brought the US out of the Great Depression.
Yeah, that's what I thought.

Shameful.

You've done no independent verification of either side, and all you needed to disagree with Turkey was somebody else telling you it's a right-wing myth. Echo-esque, indeed.

Mattie G Indahouse · November 14, 2016, 06:35:58 AM

Those sound people will never make it into the movie business.

i am karjala takaisin · November 14, 2016, 09:33:15 AM

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Trump will make America great again.
He won't make it great. It was never great. You fucking mindless sycophantic piece of wheedling shit.

this the second time i've ever seen anyone acknowledge this karjala guy's existence, and the first time i've seen him actually get quoted

challengerX · November 14, 2016, 09:36:22 AM

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Verbatim · November 14, 2016, 09:59:26 AM

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Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 09:07:58 PM
Quote from: LC on November 13, 2016, 08:49:02 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: TurkTurkBangBang on November 13, 2016, 03:28:00 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 13, 2016, 03:19:11 PM
What happens when you have a full decade dominated by right-wing policy? The Great Depression, apparently.
The Great Depression was caused almost exclusively by poor management by the Fed, established only 17 years before the stock market crash by a democratic Congress and president, and was worsened by terrible protectionist policy by the reactionary democratic Congress of the 1930s and FDR's New Deal.
Is that the historic, commonly agreed-upon conclusion, or is that your conclusion? I appreciate you chiming in, because I'm not a history buff, but I just wanna make sure I'm not being fed bullshit.
That's the conclusion from the right wing that's been pushed over the last few years.

The New Deal is commonly agreed to be one of the big things that brought the US out of the Great Depression.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Shameful.

You've done no independent verification of either side, and all you needed to disagree with Turkey was somebody else telling you it's a right-wing myth. Echo-esque, indeed.

Considering that conservatives tend to have the most incorrect opinions ever when it comes to economics, I'm very disinclined to believe anything a conservative has to say (and that goes for any subject--but especially economics).