Verb, come on, little boys don't turn transgender because someone picks on them for playing with dolls.

Verb, come on, little boys don't turn transgender because someone picks on them for playing with dolls.

Some of them become dysphoric, though. All dysphoria means is that you're unsatisfied with your life for some reason or another. Of course that can result from social ostracization.

And for those who happen to be dysphoric to their own accord, we should teach them that it's perfectly okay to be born with the "wrong" body.

I don't see what the problem is there.

We should also tell all the depressed people ''just cheer up'' and those naturaly inclined to be murderers that that's probably not a good idea. Im sure that will work.

And for those who happen to be dysphoric to their own accord, we should teach them that it's perfectly okay to be born with the "wrong" body. It's not harmful, and it won't change their life all that much.

I don't see what the problem is there.

But when neurochemistry and the body's composition don't match up it's like using copper antiseize where nickel belongs, DOT5 in a DOT3 system, Tempest plugs in a Lycoming, a PC3 tuned for a Dyna on a CBR, etc...

Quote from: Verbatim on June 03, 2015, 06:50:35 PM

And for those who happen to be dysphoric to their own accord, we should teach them that it's perfectly okay to be born with the "wrong" body. It's not harmful, and it won't change their life all that much.

I don't see what the problem is there.

But when neurochemistry and the body's composition don't match up it's like using copper antiseize where nickel belongs, DOT5 in a DOT3 system, Tempest plugs in a Lycoming, a PC3 tuned for a Dyna on a CBR, etc...

I don't know what any of that means.

Like I said earlier--how is it that I would be okay if I woke up as a woman tomorrow?
How did I learn not to care? And why shouldn't we try to teach the same thing to other people?

I get the general idea--you're putting a square peg in a round hole.

I'm just saying though, if my square peg was put in a round hole tomorrow, I wouldn't care, and I think it would be fantastic if we could teach everyone else not to care, too.

It would be fucking fantastic if everyone was just content with their bodies. No more body dismorphia.
What it sounds to me is that you people are saying people should continue to have body dismorphia.
Why?

We should stop teaching children about the evils of racism in school.
That's like telling a depressed person to cheer up!

That's not even close to analygouys to what I said and you know it, that's not even a stretched exaduration. At this point you're just being an ass for the sake of being an ass

Well, it's fantastic. How do you even manage conditioning on that scale?

I don't know. How did we teach kids not to be racist? Or homophobic? We can do the same thing with transphobia, as well as gender dysphoria. I wouldn't know exactly how, but the fact that we've been able to do it before with other social issues tells me something.

Probably not, as this is akin to telling someone with allergies to just not be bothered by them,

i really really don't think it is

unless there's hard evidence to suggest that gender dysphoria is purely genetic, i don't think that's an apt comparison

the idea is to create an atmosphere for kids such that they wouldn't care about their identity
such that they wouldn't BECOME gender dysphoric

how would we do that? i don't know, but part of it is getting rid of transphobia

but that's what i'm saying

part of it also assumes the dysphoria isn't genetic, which, i don't see how something like that could be genetic

You would have to neutralize the architecture in the brain that is gender specific to wipe it out IIRC, and doing that post-birth is kind of like brainwashing... At that point you're beginning to kill the person for the sake of the body.

is there gender-specific neural architecture?...

There was something posted in another thread about that, yeah. On certain parts of the brain, FTM people have a mostly male pattern and MTF have one somewhere in-between male and female (IIRC it was worded something like "incomplete masculinization").