Quote from: Gaara444 on January 27, 2016, 07:22:01 PMExplain how that is evil.oh, you don't know my thoughts on childbirthwell
Explain how that is evil.
>Nothing is better than something
oh, indisputably
Quote from: Turkey Sanders on January 27, 2016, 07:26:19 PMQuote from: challengerX on January 27, 2016, 07:15:17 PMYou know what else isn't weird in the east? Forcing women to wear veils, stoning them for suspected adultery, having sex with 9 year old girls,None of this has anything to do with Japan, though."the east"Asia
Quote from: challengerX on January 27, 2016, 07:15:17 PMYou know what else isn't weird in the east? Forcing women to wear veils, stoning them for suspected adultery, having sex with 9 year old girls,None of this has anything to do with Japan, though.
You know what else isn't weird in the east? Forcing women to wear veils, stoning them for suspected adultery, having sex with 9 year old girls,
How about I ridicule Japan for being a disgustingly perverted nation full of 25 year old virgins who fuck pillows with images of young cartoon girls on them?
You're entire argument in that post you linked me boils down to:
>Nature isn't rationalWhich is a load of crap, if anything nature is too logical.
Now I'm not saying it's wrong to go against nature, but don't try to make any form of moral high ground
LOLhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Painhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufferinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apex_predatorhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetry#In_organismshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseasehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria#Historyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlequin-type_ichthyosishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_coercionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_coercion#Male_adaptationshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_coercion#Costs_to_femaleshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortalityhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorderhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndromehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alzheimer%27s_diseasehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_depressive_disorderhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HatredQuoteNow I'm not saying it's wrong to go against nature, but don't try to make any form of moral high groundI'm better than you.
>Half the shit linked is crap nature did not intend
If something is hardwired into our brains for us to do, there's a reason for it.
Having a purpose is in itself, logical. Doing something mindless and without reason is illogical. Ignoring a drive that has been built into every living thing for billions of years because of "Muh feelings" is probably the most irrational thing you can do.
Quote from: Gaara444 on January 27, 2016, 07:39:05 PMYou're entire argument in that post you linked me boils down to: *yourQuote>Nature isn't rationalWhich is a load of crap, if anything nature is too logical.LOLhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Painhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufferinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apex_predatorhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetry#In_organismshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseasehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria#Historyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlequin-type_ichthyosishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_coercionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_coercion#Male_adaptationshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_coercion#Costs_to_femaleshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortalityhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorderhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndromehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alzheimer%27s_diseasehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_depressive_disorderhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HatredQuoteNow I'm not saying it's wrong to go against nature, but don't try to make any form of moral high groundI'm better than you.
It's not because of "muh feelings." Did you even READ the fucking post I linked you?Pain and suffering. That's what life is. You have no right to impose that on anybody.That's why Japan is evil.
You don't seem very mature
You act as if pleasure, love, and happiness just don't exist.
Quote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 27, 2016, 08:03:50 PMYou don't seem very maturepot calling the kettle black
Their existence does not outweigh the pain and suffering in the world. Not even close.
Quote from: Poopo No Pico on January 27, 2016, 08:06:53 PMQuote from: Fuddy Duddy II on January 27, 2016, 08:03:50 PMYou don't seem very maturepot calling the kettle blackhttps://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque
If you never existed, how can you tell the absence of pain is good or for that matter, the absence of pleasure is not bad?
Because the absence of pain is intrinsically good.The absence of pleasure being "not bad" is just a basic observational fact. If I am not currently experiencing pleasure, that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's certainly better than feeling pain or suffering or discomfort or any other negative sensation--so it's not bad. It's neutral.If there were no people, there would be no pain, no suffering, no discomfort, no anything. That's a good thing.The absence of pleasure and happiness isn't a bad thing.
Your insight is unparalleled
So instead of trying to use logic to create more pleasure
you use it to say pleasure isn't worth attempting to have in the first place? This all rides on the belief that pain isn't worth pleasure, which is false since you weigh them equally.
Some people may feel pleasure from pain, what about them?
Others feel pleasure is worth more because of pain, are they ignored?
This mindset relies on there being an objective scale of pleasure/pain which doesn't exist in any way. shape, or form.
It's a Japanese invention, you fucking genius. You absolute fucking genius.