Quote from: rc on August 10, 2016, 03:12:53 PMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on August 10, 2016, 02:58:17 PMQuote from: rc on August 10, 2016, 09:50:15 AMQuote from: Dan on August 10, 2016, 09:35:39 AMQuote from: rc on August 10, 2016, 09:11:41 AMQuote from: Verbatim on August 10, 2016, 07:45:24 AMBut I still don't like your use of terms like "dulling" or "masking of symptoms," as though any other antidepressants could possibly do anything different. While you're right in saying that's all marijuana can do for your depression, that's also all Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Brintellix, Fetzima, Viibryd, Celexa, Lexapro, Sarafem, Cipralex, and Pexeva can do for you, too. None of these will "cure" your depression--they only mask your symptoms.I'm under the impression that those drugs do "cure" depression by altering the production of the chemicals in your brain that are causing the depression. Weed, on the other hand, doesn't do that, it just makes you feel good for a bit. I guess I could be wrong about that, though.Quote from: Fox "Turkey" Mulder on August 10, 2016, 07:30:38 AMI really have no idea what you think is rude about that at all. If RC's sister believes THC-based medication will improve her health, she ought to discuss it with her doctor. I told her what you said, and she claims that she agrees with me and that she's gonna tell her doctor that her meds aren't working and give that a try again. We live in Florida, so it isn't legal, but would discussing this with her therapist be a mistake? I know the therapist wouldn't tell the police or anything, but could she tell our parents? SSRI medications are designed to stop the reuptake of serotonin (the feel good chemical) in your brain so that you feel like you have more serotonin. Problem is, that serotonin will eventually become depleted and you will need to increase the dosage to achieve the same desired effect. They are symptom managers, they do not "cure" anything. They are simply manipulating a single neurotransmitter in the brain.Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-drug. They do help a lot of people when it's done right and the patient is tapered off when the symptoms resolve. Unfortunately, a lot of doctors keep their patients on the drug for years or indefinitely and add on other medications to counteract the side-effects caused by the other drugs. The more drugs added, the higher the chances of having to deal with other iatrogenic disorders.She's been going to the same doctor for a few years now. I saw the progress way before she started smoking, but shes obviously not happy still. Should I push my parents to try a different doctor?Yes, if it's been over a year without any notable progress I'd certainly try a different therapist.The style of psychotherapy might have something to do with it, CBT based approaches are the current gold standard for a reason and if they've been seeing them for a few years then chances are it's not that.My mom keeps me in the loop with her treatment, and I don't think shes ever mentioned CBT... Could you send some links my way to help convince my parents that they should try a different therapist who will try that treatment?Hm, yeah CBT might be pretty helpful then.I'll get some links together ASAP and PM them to you but it might have to be tomorrow if that's alright
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on August 10, 2016, 02:58:17 PMQuote from: rc on August 10, 2016, 09:50:15 AMQuote from: Dan on August 10, 2016, 09:35:39 AMQuote from: rc on August 10, 2016, 09:11:41 AMQuote from: Verbatim on August 10, 2016, 07:45:24 AMBut I still don't like your use of terms like "dulling" or "masking of symptoms," as though any other antidepressants could possibly do anything different. While you're right in saying that's all marijuana can do for your depression, that's also all Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Brintellix, Fetzima, Viibryd, Celexa, Lexapro, Sarafem, Cipralex, and Pexeva can do for you, too. None of these will "cure" your depression--they only mask your symptoms.I'm under the impression that those drugs do "cure" depression by altering the production of the chemicals in your brain that are causing the depression. Weed, on the other hand, doesn't do that, it just makes you feel good for a bit. I guess I could be wrong about that, though.Quote from: Fox "Turkey" Mulder on August 10, 2016, 07:30:38 AMI really have no idea what you think is rude about that at all. If RC's sister believes THC-based medication will improve her health, she ought to discuss it with her doctor. I told her what you said, and she claims that she agrees with me and that she's gonna tell her doctor that her meds aren't working and give that a try again. We live in Florida, so it isn't legal, but would discussing this with her therapist be a mistake? I know the therapist wouldn't tell the police or anything, but could she tell our parents? SSRI medications are designed to stop the reuptake of serotonin (the feel good chemical) in your brain so that you feel like you have more serotonin. Problem is, that serotonin will eventually become depleted and you will need to increase the dosage to achieve the same desired effect. They are symptom managers, they do not "cure" anything. They are simply manipulating a single neurotransmitter in the brain.Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-drug. They do help a lot of people when it's done right and the patient is tapered off when the symptoms resolve. Unfortunately, a lot of doctors keep their patients on the drug for years or indefinitely and add on other medications to counteract the side-effects caused by the other drugs. The more drugs added, the higher the chances of having to deal with other iatrogenic disorders.She's been going to the same doctor for a few years now. I saw the progress way before she started smoking, but shes obviously not happy still. Should I push my parents to try a different doctor?Yes, if it's been over a year without any notable progress I'd certainly try a different therapist.The style of psychotherapy might have something to do with it, CBT based approaches are the current gold standard for a reason and if they've been seeing them for a few years then chances are it's not that.My mom keeps me in the loop with her treatment, and I don't think shes ever mentioned CBT... Could you send some links my way to help convince my parents that they should try a different therapist who will try that treatment?
Quote from: rc on August 10, 2016, 09:50:15 AMQuote from: Dan on August 10, 2016, 09:35:39 AMQuote from: rc on August 10, 2016, 09:11:41 AMQuote from: Verbatim on August 10, 2016, 07:45:24 AMBut I still don't like your use of terms like "dulling" or "masking of symptoms," as though any other antidepressants could possibly do anything different. While you're right in saying that's all marijuana can do for your depression, that's also all Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Brintellix, Fetzima, Viibryd, Celexa, Lexapro, Sarafem, Cipralex, and Pexeva can do for you, too. None of these will "cure" your depression--they only mask your symptoms.I'm under the impression that those drugs do "cure" depression by altering the production of the chemicals in your brain that are causing the depression. Weed, on the other hand, doesn't do that, it just makes you feel good for a bit. I guess I could be wrong about that, though.Quote from: Fox "Turkey" Mulder on August 10, 2016, 07:30:38 AMI really have no idea what you think is rude about that at all. If RC's sister believes THC-based medication will improve her health, she ought to discuss it with her doctor. I told her what you said, and she claims that she agrees with me and that she's gonna tell her doctor that her meds aren't working and give that a try again. We live in Florida, so it isn't legal, but would discussing this with her therapist be a mistake? I know the therapist wouldn't tell the police or anything, but could she tell our parents? SSRI medications are designed to stop the reuptake of serotonin (the feel good chemical) in your brain so that you feel like you have more serotonin. Problem is, that serotonin will eventually become depleted and you will need to increase the dosage to achieve the same desired effect. They are symptom managers, they do not "cure" anything. They are simply manipulating a single neurotransmitter in the brain.Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-drug. They do help a lot of people when it's done right and the patient is tapered off when the symptoms resolve. Unfortunately, a lot of doctors keep their patients on the drug for years or indefinitely and add on other medications to counteract the side-effects caused by the other drugs. The more drugs added, the higher the chances of having to deal with other iatrogenic disorders.She's been going to the same doctor for a few years now. I saw the progress way before she started smoking, but shes obviously not happy still. Should I push my parents to try a different doctor?Yes, if it's been over a year without any notable progress I'd certainly try a different therapist.The style of psychotherapy might have something to do with it, CBT based approaches are the current gold standard for a reason and if they've been seeing them for a few years then chances are it's not that.
Quote from: Dan on August 10, 2016, 09:35:39 AMQuote from: rc on August 10, 2016, 09:11:41 AMQuote from: Verbatim on August 10, 2016, 07:45:24 AMBut I still don't like your use of terms like "dulling" or "masking of symptoms," as though any other antidepressants could possibly do anything different. While you're right in saying that's all marijuana can do for your depression, that's also all Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Brintellix, Fetzima, Viibryd, Celexa, Lexapro, Sarafem, Cipralex, and Pexeva can do for you, too. None of these will "cure" your depression--they only mask your symptoms.I'm under the impression that those drugs do "cure" depression by altering the production of the chemicals in your brain that are causing the depression. Weed, on the other hand, doesn't do that, it just makes you feel good for a bit. I guess I could be wrong about that, though.Quote from: Fox "Turkey" Mulder on August 10, 2016, 07:30:38 AMI really have no idea what you think is rude about that at all. If RC's sister believes THC-based medication will improve her health, she ought to discuss it with her doctor. I told her what you said, and she claims that she agrees with me and that she's gonna tell her doctor that her meds aren't working and give that a try again. We live in Florida, so it isn't legal, but would discussing this with her therapist be a mistake? I know the therapist wouldn't tell the police or anything, but could she tell our parents? SSRI medications are designed to stop the reuptake of serotonin (the feel good chemical) in your brain so that you feel like you have more serotonin. Problem is, that serotonin will eventually become depleted and you will need to increase the dosage to achieve the same desired effect. They are symptom managers, they do not "cure" anything. They are simply manipulating a single neurotransmitter in the brain.Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-drug. They do help a lot of people when it's done right and the patient is tapered off when the symptoms resolve. Unfortunately, a lot of doctors keep their patients on the drug for years or indefinitely and add on other medications to counteract the side-effects caused by the other drugs. The more drugs added, the higher the chances of having to deal with other iatrogenic disorders.She's been going to the same doctor for a few years now. I saw the progress way before she started smoking, but shes obviously not happy still. Should I push my parents to try a different doctor?
Quote from: rc on August 10, 2016, 09:11:41 AMQuote from: Verbatim on August 10, 2016, 07:45:24 AMBut I still don't like your use of terms like "dulling" or "masking of symptoms," as though any other antidepressants could possibly do anything different. While you're right in saying that's all marijuana can do for your depression, that's also all Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Brintellix, Fetzima, Viibryd, Celexa, Lexapro, Sarafem, Cipralex, and Pexeva can do for you, too. None of these will "cure" your depression--they only mask your symptoms.I'm under the impression that those drugs do "cure" depression by altering the production of the chemicals in your brain that are causing the depression. Weed, on the other hand, doesn't do that, it just makes you feel good for a bit. I guess I could be wrong about that, though.Quote from: Fox "Turkey" Mulder on August 10, 2016, 07:30:38 AMI really have no idea what you think is rude about that at all. If RC's sister believes THC-based medication will improve her health, she ought to discuss it with her doctor. I told her what you said, and she claims that she agrees with me and that she's gonna tell her doctor that her meds aren't working and give that a try again. We live in Florida, so it isn't legal, but would discussing this with her therapist be a mistake? I know the therapist wouldn't tell the police or anything, but could she tell our parents? SSRI medications are designed to stop the reuptake of serotonin (the feel good chemical) in your brain so that you feel like you have more serotonin. Problem is, that serotonin will eventually become depleted and you will need to increase the dosage to achieve the same desired effect. They are symptom managers, they do not "cure" anything. They are simply manipulating a single neurotransmitter in the brain.Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-drug. They do help a lot of people when it's done right and the patient is tapered off when the symptoms resolve. Unfortunately, a lot of doctors keep their patients on the drug for years or indefinitely and add on other medications to counteract the side-effects caused by the other drugs. The more drugs added, the higher the chances of having to deal with other iatrogenic disorders.
Quote from: Verbatim on August 10, 2016, 07:45:24 AMBut I still don't like your use of terms like "dulling" or "masking of symptoms," as though any other antidepressants could possibly do anything different. While you're right in saying that's all marijuana can do for your depression, that's also all Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Brintellix, Fetzima, Viibryd, Celexa, Lexapro, Sarafem, Cipralex, and Pexeva can do for you, too. None of these will "cure" your depression--they only mask your symptoms.I'm under the impression that those drugs do "cure" depression by altering the production of the chemicals in your brain that are causing the depression. Weed, on the other hand, doesn't do that, it just makes you feel good for a bit. I guess I could be wrong about that, though.Quote from: Fox "Turkey" Mulder on August 10, 2016, 07:30:38 AMI really have no idea what you think is rude about that at all. If RC's sister believes THC-based medication will improve her health, she ought to discuss it with her doctor. I told her what you said, and she claims that she agrees with me and that she's gonna tell her doctor that her meds aren't working and give that a try again. We live in Florida, so it isn't legal, but would discussing this with her therapist be a mistake? I know the therapist wouldn't tell the police or anything, but could she tell our parents?
But I still don't like your use of terms like "dulling" or "masking of symptoms," as though any other antidepressants could possibly do anything different. While you're right in saying that's all marijuana can do for your depression, that's also all Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Brintellix, Fetzima, Viibryd, Celexa, Lexapro, Sarafem, Cipralex, and Pexeva can do for you, too. None of these will "cure" your depression--they only mask your symptoms.
I really have no idea what you think is rude about that at all. If RC's sister believes THC-based medication will improve her health, she ought to discuss it with her doctor.
I really need some advice
