Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 05, 2015, 10:05:03 PMQuote from: Mad Max on October 05, 2015, 09:54:43 PMI particularly like how hard republicans fight to make Bernie the evil socialist who is going to transform the entire government.Whether or not you like Sanders, you surely must agree that his plans and initiatives would be sweeping changes to how the government works and operates in our day to day livesPlease also note the list of other developed nations who manage to provide education, healthcare, and other basic needs for all its citizens.
Quote from: Mad Max on October 05, 2015, 09:54:43 PMI particularly like how hard republicans fight to make Bernie the evil socialist who is going to transform the entire government.Whether or not you like Sanders, you surely must agree that his plans and initiatives would be sweeping changes to how the government works and operates in our day to day lives
I particularly like how hard republicans fight to make Bernie the evil socialist who is going to transform the entire government.
Besides, there are shitloads of legitimate criticisms. Most notably his policy of promising free shit to literally everyone on the assumption that "da wun perssent!!" will foot the bill.
Quote from: Mad Max on October 05, 2015, 10:11:11 PMPlease also note the list of other developed nations who manage to provide education, healthcare, and other basic needs for all its citizens. It's almost like fucking over your citizens is somehow not the best way to run your country.Please note that these countries are fucking over their citizens with policies that are not, in the long run, sustainable.
Please also note the list of other developed nations who manage to provide education, healthcare, and other basic needs for all its citizens. It's almost like fucking over your citizens is somehow not the best way to run your country.
Quote from: Mad Max on October 05, 2015, 10:11:11 PMQuote from: spewky bewgie on October 05, 2015, 10:05:03 PMQuote from: Mad Max on October 05, 2015, 09:54:43 PMI particularly like how hard republicans fight to make Bernie the evil socialist who is going to transform the entire government.Whether or not you like Sanders, you surely must agree that his plans and initiatives would be sweeping changes to how the government works and operates in our day to day livesPlease also note the list of other developed nations who manage to provide education, healthcare, and other basic needs for all its citizens.The governments of those nations also is not nearly as fucked up, in debt, and divided as we are here.
Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 05, 2015, 10:18:37 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 05, 2015, 10:15:25 PMBesides, there are shitloads of legitimate criticisms. Most notably his policy of promising free shit to literally everyone on the assumption that "da wun perssent!!" will foot the bill.Except the bill will not be entirely footed on by the 1% solely, but on all citizens through changes in how we pay, and where our taxes, go into the government - on top of refocusing current government spending to other aspects.we also need to gut defense so that we lose our domination of geopolitics and Russia and China are free to shit all over democratic societies for their own benefit. After all, war is bad.
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 05, 2015, 10:15:25 PMBesides, there are shitloads of legitimate criticisms. Most notably his policy of promising free shit to literally everyone on the assumption that "da wun perssent!!" will foot the bill.Except the bill will not be entirely footed on by the 1% solely, but on all citizens through changes in how we pay, and where our taxes, go into the government - on top of refocusing current government spending to other aspects.
Quote from: Mad Max on October 05, 2015, 10:24:19 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 05, 2015, 10:18:00 PMQuote from: Mad Max on October 05, 2015, 10:11:11 PMPlease also note the list of other developed nations who manage to provide education, healthcare, and other basic needs for all its citizens. It's almost like fucking over your citizens is somehow not the best way to run your country.Please note that these countries are fucking over their citizens with policies that are not, in the long run, sustainable.Because our current policies are so sustainable. Please tell me how Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are working while we cut taxes because BOO HOO RICH PEOPLE'S TAXES ARE TOO HIGH FOR THEIR HARD-EARNED MONEYNone of these things are sustainable.And if you seriously can't see the problem with singling out the very wealthy for milking, you really can't be helped.
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 05, 2015, 10:18:00 PMQuote from: Mad Max on October 05, 2015, 10:11:11 PMPlease also note the list of other developed nations who manage to provide education, healthcare, and other basic needs for all its citizens. It's almost like fucking over your citizens is somehow not the best way to run your country.Please note that these countries are fucking over their citizens with policies that are not, in the long run, sustainable.Because our current policies are so sustainable. Please tell me how Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are working while we cut taxes because BOO HOO RICH PEOPLE'S TAXES ARE TOO HIGH FOR THEIR HARD-EARNED MONEY
Quote from: Mad Max on October 05, 2015, 10:27:32 PMWell we sure as shit can't tax poor people more money.You're goddamn right.QuoteThe whole "every man for himself" philosophy is exactly what gets us into these problems.No, friend, that would be the "it's okay to spend money that isn't ours because we're the government and we have shiny badges and big guns" philosophy.QuoteIt's also the same philosophy that rewards those who are most willing to fuck someone over in glorious capitalism.Our society can barely be called capitalist. The actual extremely wealthy, who make up a much smaller number than 1%, are able to manipulate government policy and establish anti-competitive playing fields.You wanna know how much you need to be in the wealthiest 1%? An income of $521,411 per year.That's a medium-sized business owner who constantly wonders how $500,000 becomes $250,000 by the time it actually comes home, and is constantly told he doesn't pay his fair share.The retardedly wealthy are already using offshore bank accounts and making billions, they don't give a fuck about taxes anymore. They've already bought their place at the top of the food chain.
Well we sure as shit can't tax poor people more money.
The whole "every man for himself" philosophy is exactly what gets us into these problems.
It's also the same philosophy that rewards those who are most willing to fuck someone over in glorious capitalism.
Quote from: Scorch on October 01, 2015, 11:57:03 AMQuote from: challengerX on October 01, 2015, 06:03:32 AMLOL This fuckboy came back.Lol, figures you'd have FacebookFrog as an avatar.Bernie's gonna eat shit this coming election.>FacebookFrogWell now I know you're cancer. And I couldn't give less of a shit what happens to any of these candidates, they're all trash.
Quote from: challengerX on October 01, 2015, 06:03:32 AMLOL This fuckboy came back.Lol, figures you'd have FacebookFrog as an avatar.Bernie's gonna eat shit this coming election.
LOL This fuckboy came back.
Quote from: challengerX on October 01, 2015, 11:58:30 AMQuote from: Scorch on October 01, 2015, 11:57:03 AMQuote from: challengerX on October 01, 2015, 06:03:32 AMLOL This fuckboy came back.Lol, figures you'd have FacebookFrog as an avatar.Bernie's gonna eat shit this coming election.>FacebookFrogWell now I know you're cancer. And I couldn't give less of a shit what happens to any of these candidates, they're all trash.Anyone who uses pepe in 2015 is literally a reddit/facebooker who wants to be cool.
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on October 07, 2015, 02:46:11 PMHe's never said he's giving shit out. Changing the system that benefits the ultra wealthy? Yes. The ultra wealthy let this country down. It is time for a change.you know JP Morgan saved the country from going bankrupt not once but twice right?
He's never said he's giving shit out. Changing the system that benefits the ultra wealthy? Yes. The ultra wealthy let this country down. It is time for a change.
You are aware I consider all political power immoral, right?
I hope you guys aren't actually voting for Bernie "reddit" Sanders
