Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 01, 2015, 09:09:54 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 01, 2015, 08:58:03 PMMy tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school. Why the fuck not?if everyone has a degree the job market is ultra fucked
Quote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 01, 2015, 08:58:03 PMMy tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school. Why the fuck not?
My tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school.
yeah but all career paths are going to be fucked if the college degree becomes so readily available. Its simple logic: If everyone had a Lamborghini that Lamborghini is suddenly not going to be worth very much
And fuck this notion that college is only for creating job prospects.I'd love to create a society where people can study their passions (ie. whatever the FUUUUUCK they want) without having to worry about some dumbfuck job. I'd love to just have a free institution where people can go and learn about shit that they enjoy, because learning shit is really the most valuable goddamn thing on this piece of shit planet.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 01, 2015, 09:12:28 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 01, 2015, 09:10:55 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 01, 2015, 09:09:54 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 01, 2015, 08:58:03 PMMy tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school. Why the fuck not?if everyone has a degree the job market is ultra fuckedI'm really struggling as to why I should care. Just because you get a degree in what the fuck ever doesn't mean that's the only career path you can take. Fuck this logic, I'm getting so sick of it.yeah but all career paths are going to be fucked if the college degree becomes so readily available. Its simple logic: If everyone had a Lamborghini that Lamborghini is suddenly not going to be worth very much
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 01, 2015, 09:10:55 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 01, 2015, 09:09:54 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 01, 2015, 08:58:03 PMMy tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school. Why the fuck not?if everyone has a degree the job market is ultra fuckedI'm really struggling as to why I should care. Just because you get a degree in what the fuck ever doesn't mean that's the only career path you can take. Fuck this logic, I'm getting so sick of it.
well in the real world where careers and income still do mean something the worth of that degree is important
Well... you are on the internet. Go learn things.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 01, 2015, 09:21:25 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 01, 2015, 09:19:44 PMwell in the real world where careers and income still do mean something the worth of that degree is importantIt's STILL worth more than no degree at all.not to an employer in this fantasy you're proposing
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 01, 2015, 09:19:44 PMwell in the real world where careers and income still do mean something the worth of that degree is importantIt's STILL worth more than no degree at all.
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 01, 2015, 09:25:47 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 01, 2015, 09:22:05 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 01, 2015, 09:21:25 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 01, 2015, 09:19:44 PMwell in the real world where careers and income still do mean something the worth of that degree is importantIt's STILL worth more than no degree at all.not to an employer in this fantasy you're proposingThen employers are dumbfucks. Excellent--we've identified the problem. Educate employers and tell them that degrees aren't worthless just because a lot of people have them, because that's shitty capitalist fuck logic that doesn't apply in any rationally-constructed society.Teach employers that having a degree means that this person knows how to work, and someone WITHOUT a degree, who didn't get a degree because someone called Slash over the Internet told them not to do it, lest they oversaturate the market, that he's not fit for the job, because he doesn't have a goddamn degree.fuckso let's say you're an employer and you have one open position and you get 15 people that all have the same degrees apply to the jobwhat do you do?
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 01, 2015, 09:22:05 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 01, 2015, 09:21:25 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 01, 2015, 09:19:44 PMwell in the real world where careers and income still do mean something the worth of that degree is importantIt's STILL worth more than no degree at all.not to an employer in this fantasy you're proposingThen employers are dumbfucks. Excellent--we've identified the problem. Educate employers and tell them that degrees aren't worthless just because a lot of people have them, because that's shitty capitalist fuck logic that doesn't apply in any rationally-constructed society.Teach employers that having a degree means that this person knows how to work, and someone WITHOUT a degree, who didn't get a degree because someone called Slash over the Internet told them not to do it, lest they oversaturate the market, that he's not fit for the job, because he doesn't have a goddamn degree.fuck
so let's say you're an employer and you have one open position and you get 15 people that all have the same degrees apply to the jobwhat do you do?
Devise a test to measure their capabilities.Have them temporarily work for free to see who performs the best.
Quote from: Sly Instinct on October 01, 2015, 09:28:55 PMDevise a test to measure their capabilities.Have them temporarily work for free to see who performs the best.you do realize how inefficient of a system that is right?
you guys just want to get your degrees for free then live the rest of your lives for free while you depend on the government to provide you a comfortable life for doing nothing?
Those other people need a job and income.
It shows you've never worked anywhere before. Someone can have their PhD and still be a shitty employee. There's a lot that factors into a good employee besides their education level.
there's gotta be some form of population controlsurvival of the fittest
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 01, 2015, 09:09:54 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 01, 2015, 08:58:03 PMMy tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school. Why the fuck not?if everyone has a degree the job market is ultra fuckedthere needs to be a cost attached to a degree
character qualities like how polite you are, how hard of a worker you are (there are lazy people who still managed to get their PhD believe it or not), punctuality, etc.
the oil field, construction, mostly blue collar shit but its blue collar for a reason
Quote from: spewky bewgie on October 01, 2015, 09:40:00 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 01, 2015, 09:10:55 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 01, 2015, 09:09:54 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 01, 2015, 08:58:03 PMMy tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school. Why the fuck not?if everyone has a degree the job market is ultra fuckedthere needs to be a cost attached to a degreeThat cost should not put someone in debt for 10-20 years afterwards, while they also work to become a contributor to the overall economy.its entirely possible to get a degree without getting into a monumental amount of debt. You don't need to go to NYU to get a degree
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 01, 2015, 09:10:55 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 01, 2015, 09:09:54 PMQuote from: DAS r00d d00d B00T on October 01, 2015, 08:58:03 PMMy tax dollars shouldn't subsidize everyone elses' schooling past high school. Why the fuck not?if everyone has a degree the job market is ultra fuckedthere needs to be a cost attached to a degreeThat cost should not put someone in debt for 10-20 years afterwards, while they also work to become a contributor to the overall economy.