If Jose Chicano #4357 can get in to the nation unknown to the government, what makes you think that Sharif Ibn-Al Falafel couldn't do it already?

A fucking ocean

Bring em in and westernize them. America seems to be the one country in the world where Muslims can mix in to the national culture and westernize for whatever fucking reason. The less muzzies out there, the better.

We could probably westernize the kiddies. The bigger problem is with the adolescents and adults. All the westernized muslims we have were pretty much raised here from a very young age.

Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 18, 2015, 07:37:48 PM

If Jose Chicano #4357 can get in to the nation unknown to the government, what makes you think that Sharif Ibn-Al Falafel couldn't do it already?

A fucking ocean

In a globalized and modern world such as ours?

Bring em in and westernize them. America seems to be the one country in the world where Muslims can mix in to the national culture and westernize for whatever fucking reason.

This might be it...


I wouldn't say totally westernise, you still have areas of "x-towns" where it may as well be another country.

Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 18, 2015, 07:37:48 PM

Bring em in and westernize them. America seems to be the one country in the world where Muslims can mix in to the national culture and westernize for whatever fucking reason.

This might be it...

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I wouldn't say totally westernise, you still have areas of "x-towns" where it may as well be another country.

I really can't say anything bad about that.
I live near Mennonites. They're very... unassimilative, not to the degree of the Amish, but still... I don't mind them having their tiny little area for their own little culture. They don't hurt anyone, and they make great food and grow fantastic organic crops on their farms.

When you've got this shit going on though... that's a fucking problem. To the most of my knowledge, this is strictly a European phenomenon when dealing with Muslims. In America, we've got cops that will stop white people and escort them out of certain neighborhoods, but that's just because ">black "people". "

Quote from: SuperIrish on November 18, 2015, 08:12:31 PM

Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)ﾒ on November 18, 2015, 07:37:48 PM

Bring em in and westernize them. America seems to be the one country in the world where Muslims can mix in to the national culture and westernize for whatever fucking reason.

This might be it...

YouTube

I wouldn't say totally westernise, you still have areas of "x-towns" where it may as well be another country.

I really can't say anything bad about that.
I live near Mennonites. They're very... unassimilative, not to the degree of the Amish, but still... I don't mind them having their tiny little area for their own little culture. They don't hurt anyone, and they make great food and grow fantastic organic crops on their farms.

When you've got this shit going on though... that's a fucking problem. To the most of my knowledge, this is strictly a European phenomenon when dealing with Muslims.

I can understand why it happens, and when it's peaceful and an interesting place to visit I have no qualms with it. Until last year I didn't know there was a Hindu-Indian community out in Wyoming, sounded pretty neat if you ignore the fact they still like arranged weddings and other more negative perceptions of that culture...

As for Sweden, that's not strictly true, going by the source article from the one you listed, and even contrasted by another article in the comments. Sure, these areas are considerably more shady than others, as you get with other places that are impoverished relative to the rest. But to claim it's just muslims is well... wrong.

Even then, I found no mention of muslims anywhere specifically (though I concede it's implied seeing as 50% of the gang leaders are from ME), but the rest are African and Eastern European. It's an equal share of dodgy folk from everywhere.

This bit is mostly unrelated, but I thought the translation was worth a laugh.
"The suburbs are a cauldron of asylum seekers and young angry men with self-imposed victim mentality, and for that young angry women too. These people justify their crime with social injustice."

Quote from: ObamaLover69 on November 19, 2015, 12:15:54 PM

Those are passports that are part of a list in which we waive and allow them a 90 day visa without any kind of screening.

Have you ever been to another country before.

Getting in is not as simple as waving your passport to the guard and walking through the border.

It kind of is.
Your shit goes through customs and you walk off the airplane.

Quote from: Septy on November 19, 2015, 12:22:10 PM

Have you ever been to another country before.

How is that relevant? I'm talking about people coming here that are from a country part of the US Visa Waiver Program i.e. France and Belgium

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Getting in is not as simple as waving your passport to the guard and walking through the border.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/19/forget-refugees-how-terrorists-could-%E2%80%8Bactually%E2%80%8B-get-into-the-u-s-%E2%80%8B/

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Countries in the U.S. visa waiver program
In fiscal year 2013, 21.2 million people visited the U.S. under a visa waiver program, which allows non-immigrant guests from 41 countries to spend up to 90 days in the states. The the program began in 1986 as a way to bring tourists and business visitors to the states.

http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/visit/visa-waiver-program.html

Visa holders and passport holders go through the same process. Entering and leaving the U.S.

Unlike Europe, America is very patriotic uniting all the various groups of people under one flag, I personally think that is reason why US Muslims fit in better than European ones. The love for ones nation is something all the citizens can get behind