Quote from: SecondClass on December 23, 2015, 11:30:03 PM

Quote from: Snowtrap on December 23, 2015, 11:27:55 PM

Let's assume for a minute that through all of history that we lived in a matriarchy instead of patriarchy. It'd be the same damn thing.

I disagree completely. This world would be a much, much better place if that were the case, and I doubt there would be nearly as many genocides.

Not something you or I can really prove, though, so whatever.

dude what

have you read anything written by ancient women? they were as intolerant and bloodthirsty as the men, based on what we know. the difference is that they lacked the physical and social ability to act out their hostile intentions in the same way men did. a pre-industrial matriarchal society would likely be just as belligerent any of the pre-industrial patriarchal societes. this "women are naturally peaceful and caring pacifists" shit is retarded and rooted in a kind of benevolent sexism. women in any era largely share values with their male contemporaries, but the social norms they are expected to follow lead to more nurturing behavior. this does not mean that women are naturally nurturing toward others. any idiot can observe that women are, in fact, just as competitive as men amongst themselves.

Quote from: Le Neckbeard Roman Man on December 23, 2015, 11:37:32 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 23, 2015, 11:30:03 PM

Quote from: Snowtrap on December 23, 2015, 11:27:55 PM

Let's assume for a minute that through all of history that we lived in a matriarchy instead of patriarchy. It'd be the same damn thing.

I disagree completely. This world would be a much, much better place if that were the case, and I doubt there would be nearly as many genocides.

Not something you or I can really prove, though, so whatever.

dude what

have you read anything written by ancient women? they were as intolerant and bloodthirsty as the men, based on what we know. the difference is that they lacked the physical and social ability to act out their hostile intentions in the same way men did. a pre-industrial matriarchal society would likely be just as belligerent any of the pre-industrial patriarchal societes. this "women are naturally peaceful and caring pacifists" shit is retarded and rooted in a kind of benevolent sexism. women in any era largely share values with their male contemporaries, but the social norms they are expected to follow lead to more nurturing behavior. this does not mean that women are naturally nurturing toward others. any idiot can observe that women are, in fact, just as competitive as men amongst themselves.

You can't compare ancient women to modern men. People were exceedingly brutal in the past, women included. But compared to ancient men, even those brutal women looked like pacifists. If you look at women today versus men today, it's no question which ones are more prone to violence. Why are you even debating this?

It's no secret that ancient people were much more brutal than modern people, and since men are inherently more prone to violence and aggression than women, that's what the syllogism leads to.

It's not a source thing.

I guess I'm to blame for the monstrosities some rich fucks did hundreds of years ago because I share the same skin tone as them. That makes as much sense as "YOU HAVE THE SAME DICK SIZE AS THAT RAPIST SO YOU MUST BE PUNISHED ALSO"

Turkey's not that bad.

Generally, it's

- Door
- Mordo
- Meta
- Slash
- Turkey

that's the spectrum of serious forum right-wingedness, in order of descending right-wingedness