While I don't nominally disagree with the whole "consent is everything" mantra, I do believe that it's possible to violate consent if only the cost-benefit analysis of the imposition tends towards a net gain. Any person--no matter who they are--should be willing to sacrifice themselves for a million others. Your "sovereign individual rights" come second when others are involved.To think otherwise is solipsistic and... kinda selfish and evil.We don't live in a vacuum.
SecondClass and Door should be anti-natalists.
Quote from: Verbatim on August 18, 2015, 08:54:28 PMSecondClass and Door should be anti-natalists.people who don't physically exist yet are not people
Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on August 18, 2015, 09:06:32 PMQuote from: Verbatim on August 18, 2015, 08:54:28 PMSecondClass and Door should be anti-natalists.people who don't physically exist yet are not people>thinking it matters
cant have rights if you're not real
While I don't nominally disagree with the whole "consent is everything" mantra, I do believe that it's possible to violate consent if only the cost-benefit analysis of the imposition tends towards a net gain. Any person--no matter who they are--should be willing to sacrifice themselves for a million others. Your "sovereign individual rights" come second when others are involved.
The "rape or incest" compromise is bullshit anyway.If a developing fetus is in fact a person, then the circumstances of their conception are irrelevant- they have a right to life.If the fetus is not a person, it has no more or less right to life than any other, regardless of circumstances of conception.
Quote from: Verbatim on August 18, 2015, 08:54:28 PMSecondClass and Door should be anti-natalists.Honestly? I'm starting to see the value of anti-natalism now. I can't speak for everyone, but it seems cruel to be put into this world, get a taste of existence, just to have it stripped away 75 years later. There's a great sequence in True Detective where MM pretty much talks about how sentience, self-awareness, is a tragic flaw in evolution. Animals don't sit around all day and worry about death or think about nonexistence. They just live.
Quote from: SecondClass on August 18, 2015, 09:35:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on August 18, 2015, 08:54:28 PMSecondClass and Door should be anti-natalists.Honestly? I'm starting to see the value of anti-natalism now. I can't speak for everyone, but it seems cruel to be put into this world, get a taste of existence, just to have it stripped away 75 years later. There's a great sequence in True Detective where MM pretty much talks about how sentience, self-awareness, is a tragic flaw in evolution. Animals don't sit around all day and worry about death or think about nonexistence. They just live."Boooo hooo we're gunna die ;_;"Fuck off you pussy
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 12:33:00 PMQuote from: SecondClass on August 18, 2015, 09:35:42 PMQuote from: Verbatim on August 18, 2015, 08:54:28 PMSecondClass and Door should be anti-natalists.Honestly? I'm starting to see the value of anti-natalism now. I can't speak for everyone, but it seems cruel to be put into this world, get a taste of existence, just to have it stripped away 75 years later. There's a great sequence in True Detective where MM pretty much talks about how sentience, self-awareness, is a tragic flaw in evolution. Animals don't sit around all day and worry about death or think about nonexistence. They just live."Boooo hooo we're gunna die ;_;"Fuck off you pussyhave you ever had a moment of critical thinking in your life?
Your constant obsession tells me you have a weak mind and aren't strong willed - you can't cope with it.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 12:47:27 PM Your constant obsession tells me you have a weak mind and aren't strong willed - you can't cope with it.Neuroticism is the characteristic of the intelligent and lack of thought is that of the simple, dumb animals.
You obsess over death wayyyyy too much. You're constantly whining about it. When it's time to die, why not take it like a man? Your constant obsession tells me you have a weak mind and aren't strong willed - you can't cope with it.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 12:47:27 PMYou obsess over death wayyyyy too much. You're constantly whining about it. When it's time to die, why not take it like a man? Your constant obsession tells me you have a weak mind and aren't strong willed - you can't cope with it.You're probably right. I'm not going to say that death and nonexistence doesn't terrify the hell out of me. If that's a symptom of a weak will, then that's that. Call me a defeatist, I wouldn't argue with that.
Quote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:27:25 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 12:47:27 PMYou obsess over death wayyyyy too much. You're constantly whining about it. When it's time to die, why not take it like a man? Your constant obsession tells me you have a weak mind and aren't strong willed - you can't cope with it.You're probably right. I'm not going to say that death and nonexistence doesn't terrify the hell out of me. If that's a symptom of a weak will, then that's that. Call me a defeatist, I wouldn't argue with that.Instead of fearing it, you should embrace it. Conquer it and make it your bitch
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 01:29:24 PMQuote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:27:25 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 12:47:27 PMYou obsess over death wayyyyy too much. You're constantly whining about it. When it's time to die, why not take it like a man? Your constant obsession tells me you have a weak mind and aren't strong willed - you can't cope with it.You're probably right. I'm not going to say that death and nonexistence doesn't terrify the hell out of me. If that's a symptom of a weak will, then that's that. Call me a defeatist, I wouldn't argue with that.Instead of fearing it, you should embrace it. Conquer it and make it your bitchThinking that you can conquer death is straight up retarded tbh
Quote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:29:54 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 01:29:24 PMQuote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:27:25 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 12:47:27 PMYou obsess over death wayyyyy too much. You're constantly whining about it. When it's time to die, why not take it like a man? Your constant obsession tells me you have a weak mind and aren't strong willed - you can't cope with it.You're probably right. I'm not going to say that death and nonexistence doesn't terrify the hell out of me. If that's a symptom of a weak will, then that's that. Call me a defeatist, I wouldn't argue with that.Instead of fearing it, you should embrace it. Conquer it and make it your bitchThinking that you can conquer death is straight up retarded tbhIn the sense that you can avoid it, yes. But mentally conquer it? I don't see why not.
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 01:30:55 PMQuote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:29:54 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 01:29:24 PMQuote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:27:25 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 12:47:27 PMYou obsess over death wayyyyy too much. You're constantly whining about it. When it's time to die, why not take it like a man? Your constant obsession tells me you have a weak mind and aren't strong willed - you can't cope with it.You're probably right. I'm not going to say that death and nonexistence doesn't terrify the hell out of me. If that's a symptom of a weak will, then that's that. Call me a defeatist, I wouldn't argue with that.Instead of fearing it, you should embrace it. Conquer it and make it your bitchThinking that you can conquer death is straight up retarded tbhIn the sense that you can avoid it, yes. But mentally conquer it? I don't see why not.I fear what I can't comprehend, and no one can truly understand nonexistence
Quote from: I regret participating on August 17, 2015, 03:09:30 PMis it even biologically possible to conceive at 10 years old?obviouslyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers
is it even biologically possible to conceive at 10 years old?
Quote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:31:55 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 01:30:55 PMQuote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:29:54 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 01:29:24 PMQuote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:27:25 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 12:47:27 PMYou obsess over death wayyyyy too much. You're constantly whining about it. When it's time to die, why not take it like a man? Your constant obsession tells me you have a weak mind and aren't strong willed - you can't cope with it.You're probably right. I'm not going to say that death and nonexistence doesn't terrify the hell out of me. If that's a symptom of a weak will, then that's that. Call me a defeatist, I wouldn't argue with that.Instead of fearing it, you should embrace it. Conquer it and make it your bitchThinking that you can conquer death is straight up retarded tbhIn the sense that you can avoid it, yes. But mentally conquer it? I don't see why not.I fear what I can't comprehend, and no one can truly understand nonexistence>Implying death = nonexistence
Quote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 01:36:36 PMQuote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:31:55 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 01:30:55 PMQuote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:29:54 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 01:29:24 PMQuote from: SecondClass on August 19, 2015, 01:27:25 PMQuote from: SHAWN BEEN on August 19, 2015, 12:47:27 PMYou obsess over death wayyyyy too much. You're constantly whining about it. When it's time to die, why not take it like a man? Your constant obsession tells me you have a weak mind and aren't strong willed - you can't cope with it.You're probably right. I'm not going to say that death and nonexistence doesn't terrify the hell out of me. If that's a symptom of a weak will, then that's that. Call me a defeatist, I wouldn't argue with that.Instead of fearing it, you should embrace it. Conquer it and make it your bitchThinking that you can conquer death is straight up retarded tbhIn the sense that you can avoid it, yes. But mentally conquer it? I don't see why not.I fear what I can't comprehend, and no one can truly understand nonexistence>Implying death = nonexistenceWell, once you die, your consciousness ceases to exist, so yeah, it kinda does.