Huckabee would not allow a raped ten-year-old girl to have an abortion.

Verbatim · August 17, 2015, 03:02:52 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/huckabee-wouldn-girl-raped-abortion-article-1.2328350
It must be "Everbody Piss Verb Off" day today.

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Speaking about a horrific case in Paraguay, where the government refused to allow a young girl who had been raped to have an abortion, the former Arkansas governor said he sided with the authorities in the South American nation.

“Creating one problem that is horrible — let nobody be misled, a 10-year-old girl being raped is horrible — but does it solve a problem by taking the life of an innocent child?” Huckabee said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “And that’s really the issue.”

“Let’s not compound the tragedy by taking yet another life,” he added. “When an abortion happens, there are two victims.”

Just in case there are still people in this country who don't want to cave this fucker's skull in.

Mordo · August 17, 2015, 03:09:30 PM

is it even biologically possible to conceive at 10 years old?

More Than Mortal · August 17, 2015, 03:10:36 PM

Thun · August 17, 2015, 03:11:34 PM

Quote from: I regret participating on August 17, 2015, 03:09:30 PM

is it even biologically possible to conceive at 10 years old?

Yes, because it's happened before. I mean the Paraguay case is mentioned in the fuggin OP dude.

Verbatim · August 17, 2015, 03:13:56 PM

Quote from: I regret participating on August 17, 2015, 03:09:30 PM

is it even biologically possible to conceive at 10 years old?

obviously

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

Thun · August 17, 2015, 03:16:19 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 17, 2015, 03:13:56 PM

Quote from: I regret participating on August 17, 2015, 03:09:30 PM
is it even biologically possible to conceive at 10 years old?
obviously

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

That list literally makes me sick to my stomach. Huckabee is a bitch nigga.

big dog · August 17, 2015, 03:17:14 PM

You can't rape your stepdaughter though.

More Than Mortal · August 17, 2015, 03:18:08 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on August 17, 2015, 03:13:56 PM

Quote from: I regret participating on August 17, 2015, 03:09:30 PM
is it even biologically possible to conceive at 10 years old?
obviously

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

Oh Christ, I better start wearing a condom.

Flee · August 17, 2015, 03:32:53 PM

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Jocephalopod · August 17, 2015, 03:37:00 PM

Fetus's vessel fetus's choice

eggsalad · August 17, 2015, 04:57:55 PM

i dont see why this is any different than any other pro-life perspective
they assert that a fetus is a human bean that should be afforded a right to life
they also assert that the right to life takes priority over bodily autonomy

if youre not going to debate those two things then why talk about abortion at all

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · August 17, 2015, 05:26:45 PM

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Mattie G Indahouse · August 17, 2015, 05:51:38 PM

You can't rape the willing.

gats · August 17, 2015, 06:22:29 PM

A foetus doesn't deserve the right to live at the expense of the mother. More stupid men telling women what to do with their bodies.

Mad Max · August 17, 2015, 07:07:58 PM

He should have married her, because you can't rape your wife.

DAS B00T x2 · August 17, 2015, 07:10:50 PM

Uh... women can't get pregnant from rape.

Sandtrap · August 17, 2015, 08:07:07 PM

I think I vaugely appreciate your philosphy Verb.

You can't rape something if you're dead.

You can't have rape babies if you're dead.

You can't make stupid statements if you're dead.

You can't abort babies if you're dead.

No patriachy, no feminazis, no tumblreistas, no black lives matter in ferguson.

Brb fetching a minigun to turn all the worlds problems into mulch. Truly, I've ascended to my rightful place in the world. An American. I believe I understand the true concept of giving freedom via bullet.

Spoiler

My shitty sense of humor aside here, jesus fuck. We've created a world where stupid people have power or sway like that. How stupid.

True Turquoise · August 17, 2015, 09:07:07 PM

Well, nice first impression.

Lets kill him.

Batch · August 17, 2015, 11:06:27 PM

Jesus.....christ......

Mattie G Indahouse · August 18, 2015, 05:08:39 AM

Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on August 17, 2015, 05:26:45 PM

The "rape or incest" compromise is bullshit anyway.

If a developing fetus is in fact a person, then the circumstances of their conception are irrelevant- they have a right to life.

If the fetus is not a person, it has no more or less right to life than any other, regardless of circumstances of conception.

Great idea lets force a women or a child who may not even be able develop a child safely to birth a child of an attack. If the trauma from the rape wasn't bad enough having a rape baby which reminds them of that attack is going to be bad. It might be bad enough were the person commits suicide or tries to do an abortion in their own hands. Forcing them to give birth to a rape child is cruel.

More Than Mortal · August 18, 2015, 05:21:16 AM

Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on August 17, 2015, 05:26:45 PM

The "rape or incest" compromise is bullshit anyway.

If a developing fetus is in fact a person, then the circumstances of their conception are irrelevant- they have a right to life.

If the fetus is not a person, it has no more or less right to life than any other, regardless of circumstances of conception.

muh absolute rights

Nope. If you have to kill an innocent to save five innocents, you kill that single innocent. The negative impact of forcing the mother the carry through with a rape- or incest-baby (although in the latter case I'd be more inclined to do it for the future child's sake, since nobody wants to be horribly deformed) would outweigh the killing of an unborn person.

FTR, I take conception as the beginning of personhood.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · August 18, 2015, 05:31:20 AM

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ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · August 18, 2015, 06:40:37 AM

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cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · August 18, 2015, 08:11:00 AM

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DAS B00T x2 · August 18, 2015, 09:25:23 AM

Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on August 18, 2015, 06:40:37 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 18, 2015, 05:21:16 AM
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on August 17, 2015, 05:26:45 PM
The "rape or incest" compromise is bullshit anyway.

If a developing fetus is in fact a person, then the circumstances of their conception are irrelevant- they have a right to life.

If the fetus is not a person, it has no more or less right to life than any other, regardless of circumstances of conception.
muh absolute rights

Nope. If you have to kill an innocent to save five innocents, you kill that single innocent. The negative impact of forcing the mother the carry through with a rape- or incest-baby (although in the latter case I'd be more inclined to do it for the future child's sake, since nobody wants to be horribly deformed) would outweigh the killing of an unborn person.

FTR, I take conception as the beginning of personhood.
i want cucktilitarians to leave

Utilitarianism is the single best option to deliver us from from evil and bring us to salvation and the singularity.

August 18, 2015, 10:10:04 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 18, 2015, 05:21:16 AM

If you have to kill an innocent to save five innocents, you kill that single innocent.

Oh my god, you can't be serious...

CK97 · August 18, 2015, 10:25:17 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on August 18, 2015, 10:10:04 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 18, 2015, 05:21:16 AM
If you have to kill an innocent to save five innocents, you kill that single innocent.
Oh my god, you can't be serious...

What other choice is there?

August 18, 2015, 10:31:11 AM

Quote from: CK97 on August 18, 2015, 10:25:17 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on August 18, 2015, 10:10:04 AM
Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 18, 2015, 05:21:16 AM
If you have to kill an innocent to save five innocents, you kill that single innocent.
Oh my god, you can't be serious...
What other choice is there?

Letting the five people die.

Letting someone die is morally superior to actually taking a life.

Ender · August 18, 2015, 10:52:45 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on August 18, 2015, 10:31:11 AM

Quote from: CK97 on August 18, 2015, 10:25:17 AM
Quote from: SecondClass on August 18, 2015, 10:10:04 AM
Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 18, 2015, 05:21:16 AM
If you have to kill an innocent to save five innocents, you kill that single innocent.
Oh my god, you can't be serious...
What other choice is there?
Letting the five people die.

Letting someone die is morally superior to actually taking a life.

The needs of many out weighs the needs of one.

DAS B00T x2 · August 18, 2015, 10:55:08 AM

It's a very situational thing there, guys.
If you have to choose between saving five people in danger or saving one person in the same danger, then the answer is clear. You're passively resulting in one death.
If you have to actively kill the one man to save the others, it should be his decision, not yours.