How would you help gun control in the U.S.

 
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You forgot the comma.

Come now

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You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.

That's your whole quote in response to

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It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.
I find it odd how a "non american" apparently knows more about how our rules work than you do.


There is no out of context for a retarded post such as that. It's just retarded. It's okay, we all have off days, dear.


 
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"I don't care if you non-americans criticise us

but you're not american so you can't criticise us"
fuck off and don't play Metal Gear

you're not american

and that game is clearly made in America


 
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criticism =/= you should do what my country does

Sure it does, if I'm providing a solution to a problem.

if the problem is "gun control", and the criticism is "your gun control sucks", than i'm allowed to say "you should do this like us, it works better".


 
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"I don't care if you non-americans criticise us

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fuck off and don't play Metal Gear

you're not american

and that game is clearly made in America

you know what

you're right

that game is made by americans

for americans

i'll cancel my pre-order


 
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A lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does. Often times the US is literally "the only first world industrialized western nation" still doing something, or getting it wrong.

That's just fact.


 
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criticism =/= you should do what my country does

Sure it does, if I'm providing a solution to a problem.

if the problem is "gun control", and the criticism is "your gun control sucks", than i'm allowed to say "you should do this like us, it works better".
But our gun control doesn't suck :^)
Something cannot suck if it does not exist.

The fact no attempts have happened is more telling than anything.


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A lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does. Often times the US is literally "the only first world industrialized western nation" still doing something, or getting it wrong.

That's just fact.
shutup stupid euro go back to your land if you like it so much


 
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A lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does.

That's just fact.
Yeah if you're a left wing extremist then they're leagues ahead of us.
Universal healthcare


 
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Technically if you were a right winged extremist they'd be leagues ahead, because right is more conservative.

Come on, this is common sense, silly. I don't need to spell it ALL out, do I?


 
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A lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does.

That's just fact.
Yeah if you're a left wing extremist then they're leagues ahead of us.
Universal healthcare
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

sorry, kiddo. I don't want free handouts :^)


 
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They say as they fail to understand it literally works in the same principle concept as car insurance.

Just let me get my "dummy" stickers...


Anyway, back to Peace Walker.
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A lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does.

That's just fact.
Yeah if you're a left wing extremist then they're leagues ahead of us.
Universal healthcare
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

sorry, kiddo. I don't want free handouts :^)
If I hide my stuff from the bank they can't take it when I file for bankruptcy from all my medical bills


 
 
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criticism =/= you should do what my country does

Sure it does, if I'm providing a solution to a problem.

if the problem is "gun control", and the criticism is "your gun control sucks", than i'm allowed to say "you should do this like us, it works better".
But our gun control doesn't suck :^)

I'm sorry, but if I can walk into a Walmart and purchase a gun, just like that, your system is broken.


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To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.
Maybe because its an unalienable right?
It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.
You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.
A right to self defense? Sure. But a right to own a specific man-made tool?
And how do you suggest we defend ourselves?

I'm genuinely intrigued and not being sarcastic.
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A lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does. Often times the US is literally "the only first world industrialized western nation" still doing something, or getting it wrong.

That's just fact.
>ahead
Freeing the slaves was a mistake, tbh.


 
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Honestly, the problem isn't with firearms. It's with the mindset. The reason it works here in Britain is because nobody (A minority) want them outside of reasonable use (IE farmers, hunters, etc don't count). It's very much a mindset that nobody wants a gun, that it isn't a problem. When no one wants a gun, no one will be going out of their way to get one illgeally.

In Murica, guns are, I guess, ingrained in the culture of the country. If you implemented similar laws, people would still want them and just black market purchase them.

SO if I were in charge, I'd begin by doing a change of mindset. Less glorification of the military, less militarisation of the police* and probably implement programs to help areas with high amounts of firearm violence.

*As I understand it, many people want guns because, naturally, they aren;t comfortable with police mounting .50 cal turrets on humvees. Which I can totally understand. Remove some of that fear, and I imagine some people would probably have less reason for having them. Similarly, improving areas with gang violence problems would alleviate some of it, too.

Also, better background checks for people purchasing a rifle. Any history of serious mental illness would be instantly a no.


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To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.
Maybe because its an unalienable right?
It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.
You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.
A right to self defense? Sure. But a right to own a specific man-made tool?
And how do you suggest we defend ourselves?

I'm genuinely intrigued and not being sarcastic.
Is there somebody out to get you
Oh good point. I'm sure everyone that has gotten killed knew that person was out to kill them. How foolish of them to die even with prior notice.
So much paranoia

If you're living in a place where you feel the need to constantly be close to a gun then maybe you should move.


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*As I understand it, many people want guns because, naturally, they aren;t comfortable with police mounting .50 cal turrets on humvees. Which I can totally understand. Remove some of that fear, and I imagine some people would probably have less reason for having them. Similarly, improving areas with gang violence problems would alleviate some of it, too.
Police do not have that kind of weaponry. The only "military" equipment they have access to is transport tanks for protecting police in riots, armor, and automatic rifles.