You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.
It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.
"I don't care if you non-americans criticise usbut you're not american so you can't criticise us"
criticism =/= you should do what my country does
Quote from: Saladin on August 28, 2015, 03:12:53 PM"I don't care if you non-americans criticise usbut you're not american so you can't criticise us"fuck off and don't play Metal Gearyou're not americanand that game is clearly made in America
Quote from: Saladin on August 28, 2015, 03:16:34 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 03:14:10 PMcriticism =/= you should do what my country doesSure it does, if I'm providing a solution to a problem.if the problem is "gun control", and the criticism is "your gun control sucks", than i'm allowed to say "you should do this like us, it works better".But our gun control doesn't suck :^)
Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 03:14:10 PMcriticism =/= you should do what my country doesSure it does, if I'm providing a solution to a problem.if the problem is "gun control", and the criticism is "your gun control sucks", than i'm allowed to say "you should do this like us, it works better".
A lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does. Often times the US is literally "the only first world industrialized western nation" still doing something, or getting it wrong.That's just fact.
Quote from: Luciana on August 28, 2015, 03:19:12 PMA lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does.That's just fact.Yeah if you're a left wing extremist then they're leagues ahead of us.
A lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does.That's just fact.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 03:20:21 PMQuote from: Luciana on August 28, 2015, 03:19:12 PMA lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does.That's just fact.Yeah if you're a left wing extremist then they're leagues ahead of us.Universal healthcare
Quote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 03:21:29 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 03:20:21 PMQuote from: Luciana on August 28, 2015, 03:19:12 PMA lot of what Europe does as a whole is ahead of what America does.That's just fact.Yeah if you're a left wing extremist then they're leagues ahead of us.Universal healthcareUhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhsorry, kiddo. I don't want free handouts :^)
Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2015, 03:27:27 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 03:07:04 PMQuote from: Flee on August 28, 2015, 03:03:49 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 02:24:32 PMQuote from: Saladin on August 28, 2015, 02:21:47 PMTo be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.Maybe because its an unalienable right?It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.A right to self defense? Sure. But a right to own a specific man-made tool? And how do you suggest we defend ourselves?I'm genuinely intrigued and not being sarcastic.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 03:07:04 PMQuote from: Flee on August 28, 2015, 03:03:49 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 02:24:32 PMQuote from: Saladin on August 28, 2015, 02:21:47 PMTo be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.Maybe because its an unalienable right?It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.A right to self defense? Sure. But a right to own a specific man-made tool?
Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2015, 03:03:49 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 02:24:32 PMQuote from: Saladin on August 28, 2015, 02:21:47 PMTo be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.Maybe because its an unalienable right?It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 02:24:32 PMQuote from: Saladin on August 28, 2015, 02:21:47 PMTo be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.Maybe because its an unalienable right?It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.
Quote from: Saladin on August 28, 2015, 02:21:47 PMTo be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.Maybe because its an unalienable right?
To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.
Quote from: Septy on August 28, 2015, 03:34:55 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 03:32:32 PMQuote from: Flee on August 28, 2015, 03:27:27 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 03:07:04 PMQuote from: Flee on August 28, 2015, 03:03:49 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 02:24:32 PMQuote from: Saladin on August 28, 2015, 02:21:47 PMTo be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.Maybe because its an unalienable right?It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.A right to self defense? Sure. But a right to own a specific man-made tool? And how do you suggest we defend ourselves?I'm genuinely intrigued and not being sarcastic.Is there somebody out to get youOh good point. I'm sure everyone that has gotten killed knew that person was out to kill them. How foolish of them to die even with prior notice.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 03:32:32 PMQuote from: Flee on August 28, 2015, 03:27:27 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 03:07:04 PMQuote from: Flee on August 28, 2015, 03:03:49 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on August 28, 2015, 02:24:32 PMQuote from: Saladin on August 28, 2015, 02:21:47 PMTo be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.Maybe because its an unalienable right?It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.A right to self defense? Sure. But a right to own a specific man-made tool? And how do you suggest we defend ourselves?I'm genuinely intrigued and not being sarcastic.Is there somebody out to get you
*As I understand it, many people want guns because, naturally, they aren;t comfortable with police mounting .50 cal turrets on humvees. Which I can totally understand. Remove some of that fear, and I imagine some people would probably have less reason for having them. Similarly, improving areas with gang violence problems would alleviate some of it, too.