How would you help gun control in the U.S.

 
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To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.


 
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To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.
Maybe because it's an unalienable right?

How do you mean?


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To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.
Maybe because it's an unalienable right?

How do you mean?
Second amendment of the Constitution set forth by the Founding Fathers of the United States of America.

So what? Amendments can be changed. Especially when they serve no purpose other than "Fuck you, I like guns."


 
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Yeah then "unalienable" loses its value and next thing you know they'll take away free speech and freedom of religion.

Fucking wat

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And your argument serves no purpose other than "Fuck you, I don't like guns." Its a double edged sword.

Actually, I fucking love guns, but okay.

And if America had stricter gun laws, these sort of mass shootings would be much harder to get away with, and there would likely be less of them. That's not to say there wouldn't any more shootings, but...


 
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Good job stepping on your own fallacy there.

Except I really didn't.

Your claim is that by taking away gun rights (which many countries have done), that we'll eventually lose freedom of speech or religion.

Which is a far greater assertion than "If we take away gun rights, it'll be harder for criminals to get weapons (which is an absolute truth) and maybe we'll have a slight decrease in mass shootings".


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Um, slash, daily reminder that gun laws in France aren't bad at all in reality, but publicly denying or challenging established "facts" of the holocaust will land you jail time.


 
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All assumptions and you're putting yourself on quite a slipper slope with them.

Having stricter gun laws would make getting guns more difficult. Fact.

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The black market exists and isn't very hard to access.

Yeah, it just happens to be far more expensive. Or as I would say, more difficult.

I can't remember where I read it but a gun on the black market goes for far more than Wal Mart's prices.

I'm pretty sure you can buy a gun a like Walmart or something for $600 bucks. Tell me how that's not fucking retarded.

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You'd only make it harder for the innocent people to defend themselves.

Lol, alright buddy.


 
 
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Seriously, what's up with this black market shit? Why am I gonna go buy a 800 dollar Glock 19 in a meeting that's more dangerous to set up than anything when I can just go buy some nigger's Hi-point in downtown Reading for 150 bucks, clean and clear, no paperwork, all legal?


 
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]If we have the right to bear arms in order to protect the right of citizens from the government
I just love it when people use this excuse.

As if your (people in general) shitty rifles and barely qualified automatic weapons are somehow the only thing separating us from freedom, and a Stalinist regime.

It's almost cute that people have to go as far on the spectrum as possible to try and justify something.


 
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> Police state

Oh god, the militarization of the police is truly a terrible thing. Just look at the unnecessary displays of force inherent in the American police in this day and age!

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Wait, er...Polizei? My mistake, those are actually the Swiss police! Here, this one should represent the American corruption and government induced police state better!

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Wait, shit. Those are Austrian uniforms and signs. How's about this one!

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Look at that horrible machine of mass desctruction! I can't believe that the Ameri-
Poliisi is Finnish?
Uh...

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Aha! I knew I could fine one! Look at that, the evil corrupted government units taking away the freedoms of...
"brettspill" is Norwegian, isn't it?

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British

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French

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German

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Korean

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Dutch

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Swedish

There sure are a lot of police states around the world!


 
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]If we have the right to bear arms in order to protect the right of citizens from the government
I just love it when people use this excuse.

As if your (people in general) shitty rifles and barely qualified automatic weapons are somehow the only thing separating us from freedom, and a Stalinist regime.

It's almost cute that people have to go as far on the spectrum as possible to try and justify something.
So in that situation you'd rather just give in, bend over, and let this hypothetical regime fuck you raw with no resistance?
Well I do like it raw. Just make sure to kiss me and tell me I'm pretty.

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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Seriously, what's up with this black market shit? Why am I gonna go buy a 800 dollar Glock 19 in a meeting that's more dangerous to set up than anything when I can just go buy some nigger's Hi-point in downtown Reading for 150 bucks, clean and clear, no paperwork, all legal?
No traceable serial numbers from my knowledge.
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The sad thing is that police thing isn't even my post. It's a friend of mine from Bungle who had the same discussion about people freaking out over "police states".

I just saved it because I knew it'd pop up again by uneducated peons who do little to no research on the issues they're spewing.


 
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To be honest I don't know why Americans feel the need to even own guns. Like, you're not special, many other countries get along just fine without 'em.
Maybe because its an unalienable right?
It isn't, though. It's far from being recognized as a universal right (and rightfully so) and your amendment too can be amended.
You're not American. It's our unalienable right. I don't really find a problem with a non-american criticizing our laws but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us. Just because it's not your unalienable right doesn't mean it isn't ours.
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You're not American. It's our unalienable right
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but you can't go forcing your rhetoric upon us
The irony really hurts

You should read a history book or two, or go to any news site and see how we do the same shit you're arguing against.

I guess since we're not Iranian we can't force the rhetoric on them. Or Afghani's, or Russian either.

Nope.
Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 03:11:14 PM by Luciana