To become an anti-natalist? Nuclear holocaust I guess. Then again, I could become many things in a post-apocalyptic scenario.
Nothing. It's not even theoretically possible.
I would be an anti-natalist if I didn't see it, as I've said before, as the 'ultimate scepticism'. I don't see it as even remotely feasible, so I really assign the idea any utility. I have no decent argument against it, except the notion that my promulgation of it would essentially be a waste of time.
Though you do, of course, realize that it's that sort of defeatist mentality that "makes" it a waste of time
For me? Life could be hell, but I would never want all of humanity gone either, just because suffering exists.
Lmao. You guys lack any sense of humor. I'm out.
Enjoy what little of life you can, even if it is full of suffering.
For the record, I'm not an anti-natalist but I still don't plan on having children.
Quote from: Yu on February 03, 2015, 07:58:56 AMFor me? Life could be hell, but I would never want all of humanity gone either, just because suffering exists.Wonderful--now I get to ask my favorite question in the world.Why?
Quote from: Numb Digger on February 03, 2015, 08:02:30 AMEnjoy what little of life you can, even if it is full of suffering.You see, though, that's precisely what I'm saying. Like, yeah. Do that.But why drag others into it? You don't have to have kids to enjoy your life--I would argue that kids tend to do the exact opposite.
For me to want humanity gone, humanity itself would have to go into quick spiral of self destruction in which the majority no longer cares or humanity no longer has a chance at survival due to any number of factors.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on February 03, 2015, 08:07:20 AMFor the record, I'm not an anti-natalist but I still don't plan on having children.CWould you advocate that others have children?
Quote from: Yu on February 03, 2015, 08:10:52 AMFor me to want humanity gone, humanity itself would have to go into quick spiral of self destruction in which the majority no longer cares or humanity no longer has a chance at survival due to any number of factors.See, from my perspective, we're basically already at that point. Humanity doesn't have a chance at survival--someone brought up the entropic heat death of the universe. Though, I assume you're talking about more... I don't know, imminent scenarios.
I'm not going to chastise people for having kids, either.
We learn and grow from pain and suffering, struggle and conflict- if you're strong enough to overcome it. That's were true wisdom and enlightenment comes from. That's how life teaches us its hardest lessons. To just say "fuck it, life sucks and is pointless" means that you've failed to make it fulfilling. But finding how to make life fulfilling is generally the goal for all of us.
It's chaotic,
That's stupid, and not the natural cycle of things.
Creating or giving life is not evil my any means whatsoever, and probably the dumbest of all your ideology. Life is what you make of it. If you're going to say that it's bad and evil, then I guess it is.
Life is chaos.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature