Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:22:10 PMBut if they're providing social services, why are millions trying to run from them and why are thousands taking up arms against them?You tell me, you seem to be the expert on solving Mexico's problems. You know what we could do to undercut the cartels which doesn't involve sending people to their deaths? Legalisation of drugs, would be a good starting point.
But if they're providing social services, why are millions trying to run from them and why are thousands taking up arms against them?
Legalizing of marijuana (which has great economic benefits) and decriminalizing over drugs(decrease prison population) would be a great first start
Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:26:28 PMLegalizing of marijuana (which has great economic benefits) and decriminalizing over drugs(decrease prison population) would be a great first startYes it would. But I'm still waiting for you to actually think this idea of a military involvement through.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:27:41 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:26:28 PMLegalizing of marijuana (which has great economic benefits) and decriminalizing over drugs(decrease prison population) would be a great first startYes it would. But I'm still waiting for you to actually think this idea of a military involvement through.It's something I would still support
Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:03:50 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PMReally, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came fromThat's probably the most narrow, short-sighted thing you've ever said.And I won't miss a single minute of sleep over it
Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PMReally, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came fromThat's probably the most narrow, short-sighted thing you've ever said.
Really, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came from
Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:04:50 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:03:50 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PMReally, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came fromThat's probably the most narrow, short-sighted thing you've ever said.And I won't miss a single minute of sleep over itThanks for illustrating why immigrants don't vote republican.
Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:29:00 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:27:41 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:26:28 PMLegalizing of marijuana (which has great economic benefits) and decriminalizing over drugs(decrease prison population) would be a great first startYes it would. But I'm still waiting for you to actually think this idea of a military involvement through.It's something I would still supportWhy?
Quote from: Mad Max on January 10, 2015, 02:00:50 AMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:04:50 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:03:50 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PMReally, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came fromThat's probably the most narrow, short-sighted thing you've ever said.And I won't miss a single minute of sleep over itThanks for illustrating why immigrants don't vote republican.Well illegals can't vote in the first place, so your point is?
Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 08:07:16 AMQuote from: Mad Max on January 10, 2015, 02:00:50 AMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:04:50 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:03:50 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PMReally, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came fromThat's probably the most narrow, short-sighted thing you've ever said.And I won't miss a single minute of sleep over itThanks for illustrating why immigrants don't vote republican.Well illegals can't vote in the first place, so your point is?I didn't say illegal immigrants.
Quote from: Mad Max on January 10, 2015, 10:51:11 AMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 08:07:16 AMQuote from: Mad Max on January 10, 2015, 02:00:50 AMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:04:50 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:03:50 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PMReally, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came fromThat's probably the most narrow, short-sighted thing you've ever said.And I won't miss a single minute of sleep over itThanks for illustrating why immigrants don't vote republican.Well illegals can't vote in the first place, so your point is?I didn't say illegal immigrants.I did
Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 12:25:07 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 10, 2015, 10:51:11 AMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 08:07:16 AMQuote from: Mad Max on January 10, 2015, 02:00:50 AMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:04:50 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:03:50 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PMReally, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came fromThat's probably the most narrow, short-sighted thing you've ever said.And I won't miss a single minute of sleep over itThanks for illustrating why immigrants don't vote republican.Well illegals can't vote in the first place, so your point is?I didn't say illegal immigrants.I didSo your point is completely irrelevant. . .
Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 10, 2015, 12:43:51 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 12:25:07 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 10, 2015, 10:51:11 AMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 08:07:16 AMQuote from: Mad Max on January 10, 2015, 02:00:50 AMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:04:50 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:03:50 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PMReally, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came fromThat's probably the most narrow, short-sighted thing you've ever said.And I won't miss a single minute of sleep over itThanks for illustrating why immigrants don't vote republican.Well illegals can't vote in the first place, so your point is?I didn't say illegal immigrants.I didSo your point is completely irrelevant. . .Nope. This is a discussion about illegals. Bringing up voting is irrelevant because they can't vote
Nope. This is a discussion about illegals. Bringing up voting is irrelevant because they can't vote
Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 12:48:56 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 10, 2015, 12:43:51 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 12:25:07 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 10, 2015, 10:51:11 AMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 08:07:16 AMQuote from: Mad Max on January 10, 2015, 02:00:50 AMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:04:50 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 09, 2015, 10:03:50 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 09, 2015, 10:03:04 PMReally, I don't give a fuck. Come here legally and you're fine. Come here illegally and you deserve nothing but a boot back to where you came fromThat's probably the most narrow, short-sighted thing you've ever said.And I won't miss a single minute of sleep over itThanks for illustrating why immigrants don't vote republican.Well illegals can't vote in the first place, so your point is?I didn't say illegal immigrants.I didSo your point is completely irrelevant. . .Nope. This is a discussion about illegals. Bringing up voting is irrelevant because they can't voteIt is relevant because legal immigrants are sympathetic to the troubles of illegal immigrants. When Republicans keep spouting the same rhetoric about illegals, it rings in the ears of legal immigrants. When Republicans continue to to do, it pushes legal immigrants away from voting for them.Why would you vote for someone who is adamantly against people similar to you?
My grandmother, all her friends, my uncle, and aunts are all Hispanic and vote Republican. They share no sentiment with law breakers and never want to be associated with them. Hell, two of the biggest Tea Baggers are Hispanics
Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 02:21:53 PMMy grandmother, all her friends, my uncle, and aunts are all Hispanic and vote Republican. They share no sentiment with law breakers and never want to be associated with them. Hell, two of the biggest Tea Baggers are Hispanicsmuh anecdote and selective evidence
Anecdotal: Referring to a single individual
Quote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 02:27:53 PMAnecdotal: Referring to a single individualUmm. . . No. Anecdotal means a person story of some kind; something which isn't necessarily representative or statistical. The fact that your family has that attitude, and a couple of Hispanic politicians, isn't evidence for for this attitude forming even a minor part of the Hispanic population's values. If you want to present actual evidence, then I'll be willing to take you seriously.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 10, 2015, 02:30:07 PMQuote from: Kinder Graham on January 10, 2015, 02:27:53 PMAnecdotal: Referring to a single individualUmm. . . No. Anecdotal means a person story of some kind; something which isn't necessarily representative or statistical. The fact that your family has that attitude, and a couple of Hispanic politicians, isn't evidence for for this attitude forming even a minor part of the Hispanic population's values. If you want to present actual evidence, then I'll be willing to take you seriously.http://www.pewhispanic.org/2014/11/07/hispanic-voters-in-the-2014-election/
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